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This is basically the only part of FSD that is still broken, and really the only place I still disengage. Here I am arriving at my destination. FSD ignores tons of spots to bias toward the pin at the front of the store, and then seems to get itself... show more

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This is huge and exactly what is needed for FSD. Elon Musk says future FSD software releases will remember your parking preferences when arriving at a destination. The only time I need to disengage FSD is when reversing into my garage to charge. Hopefully now it’ll remember where and how I want to park. This could also help people with dedicated parking spots at work, etc. I can’t wait to try it out, I know a lot of people were waiting for something like this.

This is huge and exactly what is needed for FSD. Elon Musk says future FSD software releases will remember your parking preferences when arriving at a destination. The only time I need to disengage FSD is when reversing into my garage to charge. Hopefully now it’ll remember where and how I want to park. This could also help people with dedicated parking spots at work, etc. I can’t wait to try it out, I know a lot of people were waiting for something like this.

Nic Cruz Patane

115,453 views • 2 months ago

This is the current most frequent weakness of FSD for me. There are a few other things they need to finish, but everything outside of this scenario is super rare for me and mostly an afterthought. It’s incredible that FSD can maneuver through these spaces and eventually figure itself out, but it is still not smart enough in parking lots/garages to be usable. When you let it go, it usually figures itself out, but it takes forever and usually blows by tons of parking spots. The only reason it didn’t get stuck in an infinite loop here is because I toggled destination option from “charging” to “parking lot.” Not sure why it was set to charging, as this destination isn’t a charging destination. I have found that the default destination opinion is very often wrong. It either picks the wrong option, or doesn’t have options like charging when it should. For now, most of us take over at parking lots. Not because FSD isn’t capable here, but because it doesn’t function intelligently enough to be more convenient than just finishing the park yourself. It kinda reminds me of V12 before FSD could reverse. It feels like the brain knows it’s fucking up and wants to do the right thing, but it is blocked from being able to 😂 Wen reasoning stack

This is the current most frequent weakness of FSD for me. There are a few other things they need to finish, but everything outside of this scenario is super rare for me and mostly an afterthought. It’s incredible that FSD can maneuver through these spaces and eventually figure itself out, but it is still not smart enough in parking lots/garages to be usable. When you let it go, it usually figures itself out, but it takes forever and usually blows by tons of parking spots. The only reason it didn’t get stuck in an infinite loop here is because I toggled destination option from “charging” to “parking lot.” Not sure why it was set to charging, as this destination isn’t a charging destination. I have found that the default destination opinion is very often wrong. It either picks the wrong option, or doesn’t have options like charging when it should. For now, most of us take over at parking lots. Not because FSD isn’t capable here, but because it doesn’t function intelligently enough to be more convenient than just finishing the park yourself. It kinda reminds me of V12 before FSD could reverse. It feels like the brain knows it’s fucking up and wants to do the right thing, but it is blocked from being able to 😂 Wen reasoning stack

Mike P

13,796 views • 5 months ago

Testing FSD 14.3.4 coming into town and it still struggles to slow to correct speed on its own. Speed limits in WI in most towns are 25 MPH. As I come into town speed limit was 45 and it was holding that good. But once I come into town I NEED it to slow correctly to at least 30 so it’s only over by 5 mph If I don’t I will get pulled over. Cops sit at the edge of town. Just waiting to catch you. I tried it again tonight and still does not slow on its own. I usually just switch the speed profile to chill and it immediately slows and I’m good. I can switch it back to standard and it holds at about 5 over. Why can’t FSD just do this on its own? Once unsupervised is here this must be correct. I know FSD is work in progress but this is one of the pain points many of us struggle with. The signs are clearly marked. It even has slow down ahead signs. FSD needs to do its job correctly. I love FSD and I know they will get this but just wanted to highlight the importance of this. Until then I’ll just use the quick change profile trick. 🤙🏼 Tesla AI

Scott Dembraski

15,810 views • 2 months ago

Here’s something I don’t understand. We pull up to a vacant supercharger stop. I get a popup on the display that stall 1D is out (it’s over towards the far left side of this station). FSD pulls in, skips tons of open spots to go over and park right next to 1D 😂 I thought it was actually going to take it, but it went for 1C. Is there any connection between the charging network and FSD? Does FSD have awareness of broken down stalls? Just curious if there’s any logic to the way it chooses a spot in a scenario like this

Here’s something I don’t understand. We pull up to a vacant supercharger stop. I get a popup on the display that stall 1D is out (it’s over towards the far left side of this station). FSD pulls in, skips tons of open spots to go over and park right next to 1D 😂 I thought it was actually going to take it, but it went for 1C. Is there any connection between the charging network and FSD? Does FSD have awareness of broken down stalls? Just curious if there’s any logic to the way it chooses a spot in a scenario like this

Mike P

25,346 views • 3 months ago

Here is a longer highlight clip out of my full length video today where I have a detailed discussion about Automation Bias, and how we look at and mitigate this very human behavior in commercial and military aviation. I am highlighting this clip as a PSA to take the supervising of FSD seriously. Tesla AI

Here is a longer highlight clip out of my full length video today where I have a detailed discussion about Automation Bias, and how we look at and mitigate this very human behavior in commercial and military aviation. I am highlighting this clip as a PSA to take the supervising of FSD seriously. Tesla AI

Chuck Cook

34,234 views • 1 year ago

I was leaving a parking lot and witnessed this. 🤔 The car in front of me stops at the line, and FSD of course stops behind them. But when the person in front me goes, FSD doesn't come to a full stop again. Is this a rolling stop or the system didn't know to stop again?

I was leaving a parking lot and witnessed this. 🤔 The car in front of me stops at the line, and FSD of course stops behind them. But when the person in front me goes, FSD doesn't come to a full stop again. Is this a rolling stop or the system didn't know to stop again?

Martha 🌑🚀

16,723 views • 6 months ago

First (potential) safety critical disengagement that I've had in quite a while on 13.2.9. Watch first and then read, curious if others would make the same mistake FSD did. I was supervising and didn't even realize the mistake that FSD made until it was too late. Fortunately nothing happened but this could have been really bad, and I blame whoever setup the cones more than I do FSD. I ended up disengaging at the very end just because I realized we were on the other side of the road with no way to get back to the proper side so I took over and sped up to get out of the lane of oncoming traffic. Shoutout to Matthew Raistrick for making it easy to get this clip in full quality.

First (potential) safety critical disengagement that I've had in quite a while on 13.2.9. Watch first and then read, curious if others would make the same mistake FSD did. I was supervising and didn't even realize the mistake that FSD made until it was too late. Fortunately nothing happened but this could have been really bad, and I blame whoever setup the cones more than I do FSD. I ended up disengaging at the very end just because I realized we were on the other side of the road with no way to get back to the proper side so I took over and sped up to get out of the lane of oncoming traffic. Shoutout to Matthew Raistrick for making it easy to get this clip in full quality.

Devin Olsen

178,907 views • 1 year ago

FSD did not stop at the intersection. I drove 180 miles r/t to do this test and FSD was flawless the entire trip except for this intersection. I blame the speed limit, the bend in the road, the foliage, and the horrible design of this intersection. I still love FSD and wouldn’t have a car without it.

FSD did not stop at the intersection. I drove 180 miles r/t to do this test and FSD was flawless the entire trip except for this intersection. I blame the speed limit, the bend in the road, the foliage, and the horrible design of this intersection. I still love FSD and wouldn’t have a car without it.

Miss Jilianne

126,540 views • 3 years ago

British news anchor cries over the state of Western Europe: "I'm 42 and I understand. This is the end. My country, my continent, my civilization, my freedoms and my way of life, my security and the ability to just walk the streets where I grew up, without fear, is over. I understand that all of this is coming to an end. I look at it and understand everything with absolute clarity. It's happening before our eyes, live. The only thing I can't understand is how the authorities.. not only in Britain, but in the West in general… especially left-wing governments… I can't understand, why are they doing this? At best - turning a blind eye, and at worst - participating in it consciously and intentionally! This is what I can't understand at all!"

British news anchor cries over the state of Western Europe: "I'm 42 and I understand. This is the end. My country, my continent, my civilization, my freedoms and my way of life, my security and the ability to just walk the streets where I grew up, without fear, is over. I understand that all of this is coming to an end. I look at it and understand everything with absolute clarity. It's happening before our eyes, live. The only thing I can't understand is how the authorities.. not only in Britain, but in the West in general… especially left-wing governments… I can't understand, why are they doing this? At best - turning a blind eye, and at worst - participating in it consciously and intentionally! This is what I can't understand at all!"

Hamas Atrocities

476,571 views • 27 days ago

Instead of letting FSD park one block over from your destination…..hitting the blinkers helps me “tell” FSD where to park 👍🏼 Of course you could just disengage and park yourself but just something I wanted to share 🙃

Instead of letting FSD park one block over from your destination…..hitting the blinkers helps me “tell” FSD where to park 👍🏼 Of course you could just disengage and park yourself but just something I wanted to share 🙃

TexasTSLA

123,192 views • 3 days ago

I only did a short Uber "shift" today and went ahead and wrapped up early for Sunday night and I'm back home. You may ask what's important about that to you JC? Well, let me tell you. As of today, it has now been exactly one year since my last critical intervention with Tesla FSD. It was on v13.2.8, and it took place in a rural part of east Texas (Ainsworth, TX). At that time, FSD didn't appear to recognize that a school bus on the opposite side of the highway was in the process of putting out their extendable stop sign, so I disengaged by manually braking for the school bus. This moment is memorialized in the first part of this clip. Fast forward to version 14.2, and FSD had handled school buses perfectly. The latest example from a few weeks ago in the second part of this clip, but at this point, I have seen this over and over now with zero times ever having to disengage. Also, not only has it been 12 months since my last critical engagement, it's been 42,847 miles since that disengagement (thanks to lots of Uber and a handful of road trips in the past 12 months). Don't get me wrong, I disengage multiple times per day every day doing Uber for non-critical things such as faulty Uber pins, passengers wanting to go to a different spot than the pin they previously set, passengers wanting to go a specific route of their choosing, Tesla NAV wanting to case the entire neighborhood block to get to a destination instead of just making the damn left turn 😂. But none of these things mean a hill of beans to where we are going, which is saving lives. If driving in an 8-figure route around a Wal Mart parking lot instead of disengaging FSD can save even one life, I will do that for an hour (look kids, Big Ben, Parliament). I am certainly no expert, but if Tesla FSD isn't the greatest software ever developed in the history of man, then whip me, beat me and call me Edna. Because I'm clueless to what could be better. Love y'all! ❤️

I only did a short Uber "shift" today and went ahead and wrapped up early for Sunday night and I'm back home. You may ask what's important about that to you JC? Well, let me tell you. As of today, it has now been exactly one year since my last critical intervention with Tesla FSD. It was on v13.2.8, and it took place in a rural part of east Texas (Ainsworth, TX). At that time, FSD didn't appear to recognize that a school bus on the opposite side of the highway was in the process of putting out their extendable stop sign, so I disengaged by manually braking for the school bus. This moment is memorialized in the first part of this clip. Fast forward to version 14.2, and FSD had handled school buses perfectly. The latest example from a few weeks ago in the second part of this clip, but at this point, I have seen this over and over now with zero times ever having to disengage. Also, not only has it been 12 months since my last critical engagement, it's been 42,847 miles since that disengagement (thanks to lots of Uber and a handful of road trips in the past 12 months). Don't get me wrong, I disengage multiple times per day every day doing Uber for non-critical things such as faulty Uber pins, passengers wanting to go to a different spot than the pin they previously set, passengers wanting to go a specific route of their choosing, Tesla NAV wanting to case the entire neighborhood block to get to a destination instead of just making the damn left turn 😂. But none of these things mean a hill of beans to where we are going, which is saving lives. If driving in an 8-figure route around a Wal Mart parking lot instead of disengaging FSD can save even one life, I will do that for an hour (look kids, Big Ben, Parliament). I am certainly no expert, but if Tesla FSD isn't the greatest software ever developed in the history of man, then whip me, beat me and call me Edna. Because I'm clueless to what could be better. Love y'all! ❤️

JC Christopher

68,319 views • 6 months ago

"At the end of this, I will still take your dignity, and I WILL ENJOY IT!" It's over for Luke.

"At the end of this, I will still take your dignity, and I WILL ENJOY IT!" It's over for Luke.

cody everett stan

12,420 views • 2 years ago

I am positive this needs to be said over and over and shared over and over until people absolutely, positively understand that ☪️ is the opposite of positive, the opposite of safe, and the opposite of peaceful. Ok?

I am positive this needs to be said over and over and shared over and over until people absolutely, positively understand that ☪️ is the opposite of positive, the opposite of safe, and the opposite of peaceful. Ok?

Kat Kanada 🏴

236,624 views • 1 year ago

One of the wildest things happened to me today on FSD v14.2.2.5 - and I recorded the whole thing. On the way to the Oakland Zoo (47 minutes, 41 miles), I told my significant other I wasn’t going to disengage when we got there. I wanted to see how it would handle the ticket booth. Of course, I said I’d take over if anything unsafe happened, which, by the way, it didn’t - I never needed to disengage the entire ride. This is what happened. We pulled up to the entrance. The car stopped for the ticket attendant. I rolled down the window, told him we had tickets, and he said, “Take a left.” But FSD kept going straight. It probably kept going straight even though the man told me to go left bc it was locked onto a different location in the zoo in the navigation, which was straight ahead. So it continued forward, then exited, and rerouted itself back to the zoo. However, this time, I turned off the destination in the navigation. I turned on Grok and told it we needed to take a left this time. I pulled up to the attendant again, told him I went straight the first time bc I was running FSD, and after that brief conversation… the car took the left, entered the correct area, and then found parking. I was shocked, despite my significant other being frustrated. Bc not only did I never disengage the entire 47 minute ride, but Tesla FSD adapted to this edge case scenario. And this was when I realized I’m witnessing the early signs of sentient behavior in Tesla AI…

One of the wildest things happened to me today on FSD v14.2.2.5 - and I recorded the whole thing. On the way to the Oakland Zoo (47 minutes, 41 miles), I told my significant other I wasn’t going to disengage when we got there. I wanted to see how it would handle the ticket booth. Of course, I said I’d take over if anything unsafe happened, which, by the way, it didn’t - I never needed to disengage the entire ride. This is what happened. We pulled up to the entrance. The car stopped for the ticket attendant. I rolled down the window, told him we had tickets, and he said, “Take a left.” But FSD kept going straight. It probably kept going straight even though the man told me to go left bc it was locked onto a different location in the zoo in the navigation, which was straight ahead. So it continued forward, then exited, and rerouted itself back to the zoo. However, this time, I turned off the destination in the navigation. I turned on Grok and told it we needed to take a left this time. I pulled up to the attendant again, told him I went straight the first time bc I was running FSD, and after that brief conversation… the car took the left, entered the correct area, and then found parking. I was shocked, despite my significant other being frustrated. Bc not only did I never disengage the entire 47 minute ride, but Tesla FSD adapted to this edge case scenario. And this was when I realized I’m witnessing the early signs of sentient behavior in Tesla AI…

Teslaconomics

113,168 views • 6 months ago

FSD V14.3.6 ➡️ 14.3.7 First hour review: Similar to every release since 14.2, I pressed the button and sat there for an hour while FSD drove me everywhere across every type of road. Interventions don’t happen outside of parking lots anymore. I can’t remember when I had to take over on the road. FSD is a work of art. On the short list of greatest consumer products in human history.

FSD V14.3.6 ➡️ 14.3.7 First hour review: Similar to every release since 14.2, I pressed the button and sat there for an hour while FSD drove me everywhere across every type of road. Interventions don’t happen outside of parking lots anymore. I can’t remember when I had to take over on the road. FSD is a work of art. On the short list of greatest consumer products in human history.

Mike P

43,689 views • 28 days ago

I use Tesla FSD every single time I am in my car, at this point it feels irresponsible not to. I wonder how long until the rest of the world begins to understand.

I use Tesla FSD every single time I am in my car, at this point it feels irresponsible not to. I wonder how long until the rest of the world begins to understand.

Devin Olsen

30,186 views • 4 months ago

Two reasons I disengage from Tesla FSD (HW4): 1.) I want FSD to take a diff route than suggested. Potential easy solution in the video: Just let me "draw" the route I wanna take. 2.) The full-stop at stop signs. I tap the accelerator when using FSD to do a rolling stop which is way more natural. The NHTSA made Tesla do the full-stop thing in 2022 and it's just annoying, especially when driving through a neighborhood with tons of stop signs. Those seem to be last remaining reasons why I disengage FSD (other than to just drive myself for fun)! Tesla - Elon Musk - Ashok Elluswamy

Two reasons I disengage from Tesla FSD (HW4): 1.) I want FSD to take a diff route than suggested. Potential easy solution in the video: Just let me "draw" the route I wanna take. 2.) The full-stop at stop signs. I tap the accelerator when using FSD to do a rolling stop which is way more natural. The NHTSA made Tesla do the full-stop thing in 2022 and it's just annoying, especially when driving through a neighborhood with tons of stop signs. Those seem to be last remaining reasons why I disengage FSD (other than to just drive myself for fun)! Tesla - Elon Musk - Ashok Elluswamy

Neville Medhora

186,083 views • 8 months ago

Found a FSD V14.2 limit the other night in some of the worst fog I’ve ever driven through at night, while it was raining. In the early part of the video, you can see me take over. I did this because the car was going about 50 mph, and I completely lost my bearings. It’s funny, because cameras def see better in fog than humans. Even this video doesn’t look as bad as it looked to me IRL. But I was totally uncomfortable, and took over because I really had no clue where the road was at the moment I disengaged. FSD didn’t quit here and might’ve been fine, but I’d prefer to see it go slower in these moments. I wasn’t confident that it understood how bad the fog was, and I wasn’t familiar with the area. When I attempt to re-engage, FSD quits immediately. I think this was because of rain (you can see cam visibility pop ups). People will say this is a vision problem, but it really just comes down to needing better context and adjusting speed in these conditions. Conditions this severe aren’t super common, and the brain probably doesn’t have a ton of exp here yet. Idk if I’ll ever find myself in a condition this bad again but if I do I hope to see FSD signal greater awareness.

Found a FSD V14.2 limit the other night in some of the worst fog I’ve ever driven through at night, while it was raining. In the early part of the video, you can see me take over. I did this because the car was going about 50 mph, and I completely lost my bearings. It’s funny, because cameras def see better in fog than humans. Even this video doesn’t look as bad as it looked to me IRL. But I was totally uncomfortable, and took over because I really had no clue where the road was at the moment I disengaged. FSD didn’t quit here and might’ve been fine, but I’d prefer to see it go slower in these moments. I wasn’t confident that it understood how bad the fog was, and I wasn’t familiar with the area. When I attempt to re-engage, FSD quits immediately. I think this was because of rain (you can see cam visibility pop ups). People will say this is a vision problem, but it really just comes down to needing better context and adjusting speed in these conditions. Conditions this severe aren’t super common, and the brain probably doesn’t have a ton of exp here yet. Idk if I’ll ever find myself in a condition this bad again but if I do I hope to see FSD signal greater awareness.

Mike P

11,580 views • 5 months ago

I had another FSD fail today. Going down the highway and we get to the dark skid marks and again FSD freaked out. Even though I was hovering my foot over the accelerator we went from 60 to 54 and got the red hands and warning alert to take over. Most of the time this doesn't happen but this is twice now the same thing has happened here. It seems to be OK if following another car but when we are the lead car this has happened twice. I'll be disengaging FSD just before these skid marks and then turn it back on once we have passed this spot until the next update comes out for V14.1 L

I had another FSD fail today. Going down the highway and we get to the dark skid marks and again FSD freaked out. Even though I was hovering my foot over the accelerator we went from 60 to 54 and got the red hands and warning alert to take over. Most of the time this doesn't happen but this is twice now the same thing has happened here. It seems to be OK if following another car but when we are the lead car this has happened twice. I'll be disengaging FSD just before these skid marks and then turn it back on once we have passed this spot until the next update comes out for V14.1 L

Casey k

28,509 views • 9 days ago