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🚨 THIS IS HOW AI BUBBLE ENDS The S&P 500 keeps hitting all-time highs. But almost nobody sees the systemic crisis brewing. Wall Street has built a giant debt pyramid. Just like in 2000. How the scam works: Nvidia pours money into AI startups. Those startups borrow billions from...

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Claude4 months ago

Very simple, seen dozens of times since 1534 (first stock exchange).

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MARMOT4 months ago

Yep, this time is no different

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Claude4 months ago

As usual bud 🤷‍♂️ Most don’t understand that Markets earn in BOTH DIRECTIONS

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Macro Bombastic4 months ago

Interesting take but I think the AI revolution is just getting started, the real value isn't in the hype it's in what these chips can actually do

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MARMOT4 months ago

The AI revolution is real, but so is the bubble. Remember the Dot-com era: the Internet literally changed the world, but the tech sector still wiped out 80% of its value. Separating technology from market hype is key.

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GolfLifeMetals4 months ago

Do the math on Revenue and Net Earnings on companies in the AI boom vs the Dot Com bubble. There are no similarities, back then they were going up on promises, now they are going up on execution.

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MARMOT4 months ago

On paper, yeah, the earnings look real. But when most of that revenue comes from a circle of venture debt and recycling chips, it's just another version of the same old bubble.

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INSIDER4 months ago

Nobody sees the crisis coming. Except the guy posting this thread, and the 47 other people who called the last 12 crashes.

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MARMOT4 months ago

I didn't call the last 12 crashes. Just the local tops you probably bought 😉

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Donnie Brasco4 months ago

But your name is Web3 and that didn’t turn out well

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MARMOT4 months ago

Ok KJM_2024 😀

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Donnie Brasco4 months ago

;) I think the stock will keep up for a while. Market is now much more global than 26 years ago, a selling opportunity is a buying for another one somewhere in the world. That’s why the market only goes up

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MARMOT4 months ago

Yeah, but we're in a euphoria phase. It always ends the same way. I think three big IPOs could be the end of this rally.

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Herschel Curie4 months ago

You forgot, all the biggest IPO’s have yet to it the market. They will replace the Mag 7 and run the market up like never seen before.

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MARMOT4 months ago

It's will be the peak of this cycle.

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Hydrogen Bomb4 months ago

You’re calling AI a bubble while you used AI to write your post 🤣🤣🤣 fcking loser

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killa kev4 months ago

Terrible analysis most of Nvda’s investments are in component manufacturers. That is done to accelerate their productions to alleviate shortages. Amd on the other hand that was egregious with OpenAI and meta. Secondly w/Nvda in neoclouds $2-5 bn into a $100bn spend is nada

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Bottom Surgery Billionaire4 months ago

@grok what is 82k btc bull trap and saylor sell off

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Sauvro4 months ago

Everything comes down to one word. Liquidity. If the Fed takes away liquidity, this whole shit starts coming down. If not, enjoy the music. There’s other long term things to worry about.

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on a coffee break4 months ago

You realize AI is still in the womb stages right? Ex. AI can’t even follow what I am doing on my screen in realtime, to help with a task I’m working on. I have to tell it what I am doing. We haven’t even started. I won’t be alive to see its peak bro.

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Mark Map4 months ago

4/  d) the 3 month T bill yield being higher than the 10 year Treasury note yield (yield spread inversion) within 24 month proximity to variables a, b, & c Signaling record :

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RSaler4 months ago

How do the start-ups show profits? They borrow from PE then purchase NVDA chips with those funds. What I'm I missing?

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Mia4 months ago

“But almost nobody sees the systemic crisis brewing” this is all this app ever talks about lmfao

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The Stock Up4 months ago

$NVDA 25x forward earnings growing 65%+ is not what a dot-com bubble stock looks like. Cisco peaked at 100x+ revenue in 2000 with no real earnings. this is a different animal and the bears who keep drawing the same chart have been wrong for 3 years running. 🔥

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CryptoKayvian4 months ago

This is how you know we keep going these clowns are always wrong

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Kabuki🔴4 months ago

🫣

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MARMOT4 months ago

👀

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toni4 months ago

The bubble narrative misses the real shift. Nvidia's not the problem - it's infrastructure for the next computing era. Unlike 2000's vaporware, these chips power real AI deployments generating actual revenue today.

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A💎4 months ago

omg. Does anyone ANYONE write their own shit anymore? ANYONE?

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Nonzee4 months ago

👍

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MARMOT4 months ago

Thanks

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CryptoKayvian4 months ago

Do the bubble bursts with a lot of stocks still 50% from their highs got it

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Only2Words4 months ago

Which Saylor sell-off? 32 BTC? Really?

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MARMOT4 months ago

Look at the chart lol

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Only2Words4 months ago

Your SP chart? You didn't inflate 2000's 1,527 level. If you consider 4% yearly correction for 26 years today's levels would need to be divided by 2,77. That's 7,700/2.77 = 2,780 If 5%, same calculation yields 2,169 The market is high, but not overvalued, PEs are actually lower. IMHO.

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MARMOT4 months ago

We were talking about Saylor, so obviously I meant the bitcoin chart...

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Only2Words4 months ago

Oh, ok. I thought you meant your SP chart, which could make sense, as some people are saying it's the IPOs draining liquidity from crypto. To which I disagree, but whatever.

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Wheezy Insights4 months ago

Danger signs ahead, Kalshi

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MARMOT4 months ago

Exactly.

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Tony Research4 months ago

💪

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MARMOT4 months ago

Thanks

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Mark Map4 months ago

3/  b) the YTD S&P500 return being negative into June 30th / July 31 c) variables a & b falling within "Presidential term years" 1, 3, or 4

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P T4 months ago

look at the amount of money been printing

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Hal McIntosh4 months ago

OK yes all good, and I was there on a desk living the pain of various bubbles. Two things different this time, which won't change the outcome but might change the timing and I'm interested in your thoughts. First, internet bubble was profitless and this one is a profit bubble so the dynamics will be different. Second, passive and passive proxies are now between 50% and 65% of effective volume and they don't care about price. So it could go much further until something collapses flow. Already becoming the greatest bubble in history on many metrics. What's the catalyst?

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Nash4 months ago

using h100s as collateral isn't the scary part; the scarier part is apollo underwriting revenue on 3-year inference contracts nobody can price once blackwell racks ship.

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Phantom Economics4 months ago

Concentration risk is real. 2000 comparisons are lazy. That's a diversification problem not a bubble.

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Mark Map4 months ago

6/ As no process is perfect, this didn't catch the 1961, 2000, 2007, or 2021 declines. Yet it may help give a "heads up" - especially when the yield spread goes into inversion ( yield spread "normalized" back in Dec 2024 )

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.4 months ago

Holy yap, all this bs and then proceeds to show a chart that been going UP for ages, fkin idiot shows a 590% profit and then a 49% red and thinks we should be scared of the next one after a 900% profit???

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Volt FX4 months ago

Chip-collateralized circular lending is a real and underreported risk. But hyperscalers buying with operating cash flow are the majority of NVDA revenue, not startup debt loops. Real risk, overstated conclusion, "turn on notifications" at the end.

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jimmywang094 months ago

Everyone knows this it’s some secret only you can see lmao. Nobody cares they all in on it including share holders

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Rumple4 months ago

You do realize that we are in the middle of that parabolic chart and that down trend is what’s happening right now before we go up 60% more.

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