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Uber CEO on Tesla using Camera Vision over LiDAR: “I think in the near-term it’s going to be very difficult, and Elon Musk would tell me I’m wrong, and never bet against him, but it’s my instinct — in the near-term it’s going to be very difficult to build...

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“Elon Musk, you’ll say I’m wrong, but in the short term it will be very difficult to have a camera-only autonomous car like Tesla. Camera, LiDAR, and radar is the right solution.”

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Elon Musk in 2019 on LiDAR: “They’re all going to dump LIDAR; that’s my prediction. I should point out that I don’t actually super hate LIDAR as much as it may sound. But at SpaceX, SpaceX Dragon uses LIDAR to navigate to the space station and dock. Not only that, SpaceX developed its own LIDAR from scratch to do that, and I spearheaded that effort personally. Because in that scenario, LIDAR makes sense. In cars, it’s freaking stupid. Once you solve Vision, it’s worthless.”

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Here's Elon Musk explaining why Tesla Robotaxi will be safer than Waymo. David Faber: “Why do you feel that [Tesla's camera-only approach] is going to be the equivalent [to Waymo's with radar and LiDAR] in terms of safety profile?” Elon: “Oh, I think it'll be better. The way that the road system is designed is for intelligence, biological neural nets, and eyes. So what will actually work best for the road system is digital neural nets and cameras. And we also have the microphones so the car can hear emergency vehicles. The whole road system is not designed for shooting lasers out of your eyes. We found that when you have multiple sensors, they tend to get confused. Do you believe the camera, or do you believe the LiDAR? And getting confused is what can lead to accidents. So we used to have, for example, a radar in the car, but we found that the radar and the camera would sometimes disagree and then you don't know which one to believe.” CNBC Interview with David Faber, May 20, 2025
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Here's Elon Musk explaining why Tesla Robotaxi will be safer than Waymo. David Faber: “Why do you feel that [Tesla's camera-only approach] is going to be the equivalent [to Waymo's with radar and LiDAR] in terms of safety profile?” Elon: “Oh, I think it'll be better. The way that the road system is designed is for intelligence, biological neural nets, and eyes. So what will actually work best for the road system is digital neural nets and cameras. And we also have the microphones so the car can hear emergency vehicles. The whole road system is not designed for shooting lasers out of your eyes. We found that when you have multiple sensors, they tend to get confused. Do you believe the camera, or do you believe the LiDAR? And getting confused is what can lead to accidents. So we used to have, for example, a radar in the car, but we found that the radar and the camera would sometimes disagree and then you don't know which one to believe.” CNBC Interview with David Faber, May 20, 2025

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ELON: ONCE YOU SOLVE VISION, LiDAR IS WORTHLESS “They're all going to dump LiDAR. That's my prediction. Mark my words. I should point out that I don't actually super hate LiDAR as much as it may sound. SpaceX Dragon uses LiDAR to navigate to the space station and dock. Not only that, SpaceX developed its own LiDAR from scratch to do that, and I spearheaded that effort personally because in that scenario LiDAR makes sense. And in cars, it's friggin' stupid. It's expensive and unnecessary. Once you solve vision, it's worthless.” Source: Elon Musk Tesla Autonomy Day, April 2019
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ELON: ONCE YOU SOLVE VISION, LiDAR IS WORTHLESS “They're all going to dump LiDAR. That's my prediction. Mark my words. I should point out that I don't actually super hate LiDAR as much as it may sound. SpaceX Dragon uses LiDAR to navigate to the space station and dock. Not only that, SpaceX developed its own LiDAR from scratch to do that, and I spearheaded that effort personally because in that scenario LiDAR makes sense. And in cars, it's friggin' stupid. It's expensive and unnecessary. Once you solve vision, it's worthless.” Source: Elon Musk Tesla Autonomy Day, April 2019

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7 years go on Tesla Autonomy Day, Elon warned ANY car company that relies on lidar to solve autonomy is going to be doomed. I still remember so many people laughing and mocking that Tesla was screwed going vision-only. Fast forward to today in 2026, he was right, now it’s the official standard in solving autonomy that companies are still figuring out how to do. “Lidar is a fool’s errand. Anyone relying on lidar is doomed. And anyone relying on lidar is doomed. Doomed! They are expensive sensors that are unnecessary. It’s like having a whole bunch of expensive appendices. Like, one appendix is bad, well, now you have a whole bunch of them. It’s ridiculous. You’ll see.” - Elon Musk
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7 years go on Tesla Autonomy Day, Elon warned ANY car company that relies on lidar to solve autonomy is going to be doomed. I still remember so many people laughing and mocking that Tesla was screwed going vision-only. Fast forward to today in 2026, he was right, now it’s the official standard in solving autonomy that companies are still figuring out how to do. “Lidar is a fool’s errand. Anyone relying on lidar is doomed. And anyone relying on lidar is doomed. Doomed! They are expensive sensors that are unnecessary. It’s like having a whole bunch of expensive appendices. Like, one appendix is bad, well, now you have a whole bunch of them. It’s ridiculous. You’ll see.” - Elon Musk

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John Krafcik, Former Waymo CEO thinks Tesla can’t solve autonomy with a vision-only approach. “Human vision is so much more capable than the vision of a car equipped with seven 5-megapixel cameras — only one of which is narrow-view, while all the others are wide-view. So you’re basically dispersing those 5 megapixels in a way that makes the actual effective vision more like 20/60 or 20/70. The rest of the cameras in a car like that wouldn’t even pass a DMV vision test. If you compare that to a serious L4 company, they’re really trying to achieve superhuman perception with an amazing array of cameras — with extraordinary 360° coverage, redundancy at the corners of the car, on the roof, high and low, everywhere. And then you have LiDAR and radar providing completely different modalities of active sensing to complement the passive sensing from the cameras. That’s truly superhuman. With that level of data, you can do amazing things — as opposed to a car that has a really bad case of myopia, should be wearing glasses, and operates on a very limited data cycle. I think that’s the core challenge the current iteration of camera-only cars faces: they don’t have superhuman vision. They just don’t. And without superhuman vision, it seems pretty unlikely to me that you’re going to achieve superhuman driving capability. If you’re not going to achieve superhuman driving capability, why are you even bothering, right? That’s the whole point of this.” 😂😂
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John Krafcik, Former Waymo CEO thinks Tesla can’t solve autonomy with a vision-only approach. “Human vision is so much more capable than the vision of a car equipped with seven 5-megapixel cameras — only one of which is narrow-view, while all the others are wide-view. So you’re basically dispersing those 5 megapixels in a way that makes the actual effective vision more like 20/60 or 20/70. The rest of the cameras in a car like that wouldn’t even pass a DMV vision test. If you compare that to a serious L4 company, they’re really trying to achieve superhuman perception with an amazing array of cameras — with extraordinary 360° coverage, redundancy at the corners of the car, on the roof, high and low, everywhere. And then you have LiDAR and radar providing completely different modalities of active sensing to complement the passive sensing from the cameras. That’s truly superhuman. With that level of data, you can do amazing things — as opposed to a car that has a really bad case of myopia, should be wearing glasses, and operates on a very limited data cycle. I think that’s the core challenge the current iteration of camera-only cars faces: they don’t have superhuman vision. They just don’t. And without superhuman vision, it seems pretty unlikely to me that you’re going to achieve superhuman driving capability. If you’re not going to achieve superhuman driving capability, why are you even bothering, right? That’s the whole point of this.” 😂😂

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.Erik Voorhees: It’s actually good, from the Trojan horse perspective, that Bitcoin was traceable enough for traditional institutions to tolerate it. “When Bitcoin came out, everyone called it private, thought of it as private. It was referred to as anonymous in every news story. And in some ways, it is very private and very anonymous. But the truth is that it’s also extremely trackable and traceable. It is not private in reality. And the question is, should it have been from the start? And at first I thought, yes, it should have been more private. And that was a mistake in its design. However, I think if Bitcoin had been anonymous truly from the start, like a Zcash or a Monero, it would have had such antagonism from the state. I don’t know that the state could have snuffed it out, but they would have tried much harder. And I think it’s actually good, from the Trojan horse metaphor perspective, that it was traceable enough that the traditional institutions could tolerate it. They’ve never liked it, but they could at least tolerate it because there is some traceability. And that has allowed Bitcoin to grow. And I think in its shadow, that other crypto assets are actually anonymous is very healthy. The strength of cryptocurrency as a concept in society, I think, is served best when Bitcoin itself is not perfectly private, but other assets are. That is a very difficult thing, I think, for the state to combat. And that decentralization of attributes is really, really crucial. So, yeah, I’m very glad that there are other coins that are private. I want there to be more of them, and I want them to be more popular. And I think it’s okay that Bitcoin itself is not.”
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.Erik Voorhees: It’s actually good, from the Trojan horse perspective, that Bitcoin was traceable enough for traditional institutions to tolerate it. “When Bitcoin came out, everyone called it private, thought of it as private. It was referred to as anonymous in every news story. And in some ways, it is very private and very anonymous. But the truth is that it’s also extremely trackable and traceable. It is not private in reality. And the question is, should it have been from the start? And at first I thought, yes, it should have been more private. And that was a mistake in its design. However, I think if Bitcoin had been anonymous truly from the start, like a Zcash or a Monero, it would have had such antagonism from the state. I don’t know that the state could have snuffed it out, but they would have tried much harder. And I think it’s actually good, from the Trojan horse metaphor perspective, that it was traceable enough that the traditional institutions could tolerate it. They’ve never liked it, but they could at least tolerate it because there is some traceability. And that has allowed Bitcoin to grow. And I think in its shadow, that other crypto assets are actually anonymous is very healthy. The strength of cryptocurrency as a concept in society, I think, is served best when Bitcoin itself is not perfectly private, but other assets are. That is a very difficult thing, I think, for the state to combat. And that decentralization of attributes is really, really crucial. So, yeah, I’m very glad that there are other coins that are private. I want there to be more of them, and I want them to be more popular. And I think it’s okay that Bitcoin itself is not.”

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