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Under Frontier's "dynamic seat pricing" policy, it charges customers DIFFERENT prices for the SAME seat! But first the airline collects your personal data - everything from browser cookies to search history - to determine your ticket price Sound predatory? Absolutely

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Why is it so hard for airlines to NOT charge people different prices for the same seat and NOT hoard your personal data? These Allegiant and Frontier CEOs are making gobs in profit all while treating their customers like cattle

Why is it so hard for airlines to NOT charge people different prices for the same seat and NOT hoard your personal data? These Allegiant and Frontier CEOs are making gobs in profit all while treating their customers like cattle

Josh Hawley

98,012 views • 9 months ago

United Airlines is using dynamic pricing This plane ticket says it’s $752. Once you out in the travelers information it says “Based on traveler information provided, the price of your ticket has changed” The price went from $752.20 -> $1,156.20 United see the trackers age was older so automatically drastically increased the ticket price Airlines started holding ‘separate fare buckets’ for different passenger categories. So now for the same seat, you can be sorted into age categories and have your price go up based on what United Airlines says their inventory is for each seat category This is dynamic pricing adjustments It’s only going to get worse if we let this continue

United Airlines is using dynamic pricing This plane ticket says it’s $752. Once you out in the travelers information it says “Based on traveler information provided, the price of your ticket has changed” The price went from $752.20 -> $1,156.20 United see the trackers age was older so automatically drastically increased the ticket price Airlines started holding ‘separate fare buckets’ for different passenger categories. So now for the same seat, you can be sorted into age categories and have your price go up based on what United Airlines says their inventory is for each seat category This is dynamic pricing adjustments It’s only going to get worse if we let this continue

Wall Street Apes

525,925 views • 1 month ago

“Surge Pricing” in American grocery stores has arrived Kroger partnered with Microsoft to introduce AI-powered technologies for personalized pricing “Kroger just rolled out surge pricing using facial recognition technology: - Determine the maximum price of goods customers are willing to pay - Kroger has the ability to change the prices of their products depending on the facial image of the person buying them - Depending on the image of the person buying the product, they can access our information and dictate that price - Can also use our image to determine how often we buy certain products and increase the price of that product - Dynamic pricing in grocery stores could resemble the airline industry's ticket pricing strategies “This could lead to discriminatory practices using AI as a scapegoat to charge people of different races, different socioeconomic status, different family sizes, and different dietary restrictions different prices for the same products that they are buying” (Kroger, the largest grocery chain in the U.S., denied claims that ESLs would be used for surge pricing, insisting its pricing strategy aims to lower costs for consumers. "To be clear, Kroger does not and has never engaged in 'surge pricing.' Any test of electronic shelf tags is designed to lower prices for more customers where it matters most”) … Yeah right

“Surge Pricing” in American grocery stores has arrived Kroger partnered with Microsoft to introduce AI-powered technologies for personalized pricing “Kroger just rolled out surge pricing using facial recognition technology: - Determine the maximum price of goods customers are willing to pay - Kroger has the ability to change the prices of their products depending on the facial image of the person buying them - Depending on the image of the person buying the product, they can access our information and dictate that price - Can also use our image to determine how often we buy certain products and increase the price of that product - Dynamic pricing in grocery stores could resemble the airline industry's ticket pricing strategies “This could lead to discriminatory practices using AI as a scapegoat to charge people of different races, different socioeconomic status, different family sizes, and different dietary restrictions different prices for the same products that they are buying” (Kroger, the largest grocery chain in the U.S., denied claims that ESLs would be used for surge pricing, insisting its pricing strategy aims to lower costs for consumers. "To be clear, Kroger does not and has never engaged in 'surge pricing.' Any test of electronic shelf tags is designed to lower prices for more customers where it matters most”) … Yeah right

Wall Street Apes

688,738 views • 1 year ago

No longer a conspiracy theory Instacart has been caught using Dynamic Pricing They are accessing personal data of users and then adjusting prices based on that data. If someone can afford to pay more for items, the prices increase “You may have heard of dynamic pricing. Well now Instacart is accused of using this controversial practice to charge consumers wildly inconsistent prices on the same products. — This is infuriating. Food delivery service Instacart is being accused of charging different prices to different customers on the same grocery items without them knowing. Groundwork, it's a consumer advocacy group, Instacart says Instacart's pricing algorithm could lead to shoppers paying an extra $1,200 on groceries annually. Nearly three-quarters of grocery items it surveyed were sold at different price points. Instacart said the price differences were tests conducted by some retailers to learn what matters most to consumers. It denied using shoppers' personal information to fuel dynamic or customized pricing.”

No longer a conspiracy theory Instacart has been caught using Dynamic Pricing They are accessing personal data of users and then adjusting prices based on that data. If someone can afford to pay more for items, the prices increase “You may have heard of dynamic pricing. Well now Instacart is accused of using this controversial practice to charge consumers wildly inconsistent prices on the same products. — This is infuriating. Food delivery service Instacart is being accused of charging different prices to different customers on the same grocery items without them knowing. Groundwork, it's a consumer advocacy group, Instacart says Instacart's pricing algorithm could lead to shoppers paying an extra $1,200 on groceries annually. Nearly three-quarters of grocery items it surveyed were sold at different price points. Instacart said the price differences were tests conducted by some retailers to learn what matters most to consumers. It denied using shoppers' personal information to fuel dynamic or customized pricing.”

Wall Street Apes

418,470 views • 6 months ago

No longer a ‘conspiracy theory’ Online retailers are accessing your data and then adjusting prices for items based on that data Airlines are being caught adjusting prices based on data too “This holiday season, you and your neighbor could be shopping for the exact same item and pay different prices — surveillance pricing is and how your personal data plays a role. You may be shopping for gifts from the comfort of your couch, but stores can still see who you are. Most of these companies are charging you a different price based on some data they have about you. It could be your location, it could be your proximity to the store, it could be your shopping history, knowing that you bought a product previously and are willing pay for it again.” “Consumer watchdog president Jamie Court says surveillance pricing is nearly impossible to avoid — Court says his organization has evidence all the major retailers use personal algorithms to nudge a price up or down, targeting data from your Amazon cart, Uber rides, or even the brand of laptop you're using to shop” “For those traveling for the holidays. Airlines will charge you a different price depending upon how many times you go to the website. “Currently, there is no federal regulation for companies that use surveillance pricing. We reached out to the FTC”

Wall Street Apes

518,986 views • 6 months ago

Man buys a ticket for his son to sit in a car seat on a Delta flight. The airline sold another ticket for that same seat and told the man he had to hold his child or he would be arrested with federal charges for a seat he paid for already. Who else thinks this is wrong? PT 1

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5,118,395 views • 9 months ago

Corporate greed is fueling price gouging and surveillance pricing. Companies are deciding YOU should pay more because of your search history, location or other personal data they've collected. I introduced the Stop Price Gouging in Grocery Stores Act to ban surveillance pricing.

Corporate greed is fueling price gouging and surveillance pricing. Companies are deciding YOU should pay more because of your search history, location or other personal data they've collected. I introduced the Stop Price Gouging in Grocery Stores Act to ban surveillance pricing.

Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib

16,990 views • 3 months ago

Delta Airlines reportedly wants to use AI to set individualized ticket prices for passengers. It's the latest company to embrace a shady tactic called "surveillance pricing" that weaponizes your personal data. Watch Lina Khan explain how it works.

Delta Airlines reportedly wants to use AI to set individualized ticket prices for passengers. It's the latest company to embrace a shady tactic called "surveillance pricing" that weaponizes your personal data. Watch Lina Khan explain how it works.

Robert Reich

423,362 views • 11 months ago

HUGE ‼️ After public pushback Instacart ends dynamic pricing! We are all making a difference! “Instacart is pulling the plug on AI setting different prices for different customers — Effective immediately, Instacart is ending all item price tests on our platform” “The fact that they caved so quickly says to me that they know that they were doing something wrong.” “Think Tank Groundwork Collaborative found that Instacart's algorithmic pricing charged various prices for the same item from the same store. The prices varied by 7% on average, depending on the shopper, which could cost a family of four $4, $1,200 more per year. One example, according to the report, a dozen eggs added to virtual carts at the same time from one Washington, D.C. grocery store rang up at five different prices, ranging from $3.99 to $4.79.” “Instacart insists that this price testing was not dynamic pricing (which is a lie, it was proven to be dynamic pricing) — the FTC is now probing Instacart over these controversial practices.”

HUGE ‼️ After public pushback Instacart ends dynamic pricing! We are all making a difference! “Instacart is pulling the plug on AI setting different prices for different customers — Effective immediately, Instacart is ending all item price tests on our platform” “The fact that they caved so quickly says to me that they know that they were doing something wrong.” “Think Tank Groundwork Collaborative found that Instacart's algorithmic pricing charged various prices for the same item from the same store. The prices varied by 7% on average, depending on the shopper, which could cost a family of four $4, $1,200 more per year. One example, according to the report, a dozen eggs added to virtual carts at the same time from one Washington, D.C. grocery store rang up at five different prices, ranging from $3.99 to $4.79.” “Instacart insists that this price testing was not dynamic pricing (which is a lie, it was proven to be dynamic pricing) — the FTC is now probing Instacart over these controversial practices.”

Wall Street Apes

71,374 views • 6 months ago

🚨 THEY’RE PINGING YOUR PHONE TO CHANGE PRICES IN REAL TIME Major retailers are quietly testing AI-driven dynamic pricing with tech that reads your location, data, and proximity to the store before deciding what you pay. Every ping from your phone ... GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, app activity, all of it feeds an algorithm that decides your “value.” The closer you get, the higher it goes. They call it personalized pricing. You’d call it being tracked and charged for who the system thinks you are. Same item. Different people. Different prices. So when your total jumps the second you walk in - is that inflation, or surveillance disguised as a sale?

🚨 THEY’RE PINGING YOUR PHONE TO CHANGE PRICES IN REAL TIME Major retailers are quietly testing AI-driven dynamic pricing with tech that reads your location, data, and proximity to the store before deciding what you pay. Every ping from your phone ... GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, app activity, all of it feeds an algorithm that decides your “value.” The closer you get, the higher it goes. They call it personalized pricing. You’d call it being tracked and charged for who the system thinks you are. Same item. Different people. Different prices. So when your total jumps the second you walk in - is that inflation, or surveillance disguised as a sale?

HustleBitch

76,229 views • 7 months ago

Senator Josh Hawley asks questions of airline executives Specifically about seat and bag pricing policy The hypocrisy of the airlines is staggering

Senator Josh Hawley asks questions of airline executives Specifically about seat and bag pricing policy The hypocrisy of the airlines is staggering

Dangerous Thoughts

53,975 views • 23 days ago

Surveillance Pricing is happening in America More complaints about American’s data being collected and then charging them different prices based on that data One American saw a $230 price increase on her JetBlue airline ticket the next day after making a social media post saying “I love JetBlue” That data was collected and the price skyrocketed “The airline responded saying, try clearing your cash and cookies, or booking with an incognito window. Critics were quick to claim JetBlue was using what's known as surveillance pricing — Many implied that JetBlue's Tweet was telling the traveler he could get a lower price if he erased the data JetBlue had received about him through his online searches.” “Every day our phones and devices collect massive amounts of personal data on us, and now businesses may be using this trove of personal information to charge each of us a different price for the exact same product or service — experts say surveillance pricing is still being used by ride share apps, major grocery retailers, and even pharmacies” This isn’t a conspiracy theory, this is actually happening The problem is so prevalent that multiple states are considering banning the practice

Surveillance Pricing is happening in America More complaints about American’s data being collected and then charging them different prices based on that data One American saw a $230 price increase on her JetBlue airline ticket the next day after making a social media post saying “I love JetBlue” That data was collected and the price skyrocketed “The airline responded saying, try clearing your cash and cookies, or booking with an incognito window. Critics were quick to claim JetBlue was using what's known as surveillance pricing — Many implied that JetBlue's Tweet was telling the traveler he could get a lower price if he erased the data JetBlue had received about him through his online searches.” “Every day our phones and devices collect massive amounts of personal data on us, and now businesses may be using this trove of personal information to charge each of us a different price for the exact same product or service — experts say surveillance pricing is still being used by ride share apps, major grocery retailers, and even pharmacies” This isn’t a conspiracy theory, this is actually happening The problem is so prevalent that multiple states are considering banning the practice

Wall Street Apes

42,316 views • 2 months ago

I just went down this rabbit hole, and it's so fascinating. So apparently, airlines have been selling your data to competitors for years. Strange right? I know, hear me out... It's called dynamic pricing. Dynamic pricing is when a company charges you a price calculated specifically for you, based on what they know about you, rather than a fixed price everyone sees. Nobody called it surveillance. The mainstream take on dynamic pricing is that it's sinister and new. Corporations secretly watching, jacking up prices, exploiting desperation. That anger is mostly right. Dynamic pricing isn't a bug that crept into capitalism. It's the entire architecture of how information asymmetry becomes profit. Airlines have always charged different people different prices for the same seat. Hotels. Insurance companies. Actuarial profiling predates the internet. What changed isn't the behavior. It's the resolution. Your battery at 8% telling Uber you're stranded is a higher-resolution version of the taxi driver who saw you running in the rain and didn't turn the meter off. The new part is the precision. They know you searched the same flight six times. They know you're on a Mac. They know your zip code and how long you've been sitting on the page. Old dynamic pricing responded to demand. Surveillance pricing responds to you. The counterargument from the market side is real. Personalization can mean discounts. But companies optimizing for revenue will use behavioral data to find the ceiling, not the floor. What are your thoughts? Is this fair or pure greed from big corp? That's a wrap. Li is a gallery for the greatest minds in economics, psychology, and history. Follow if that interests you. We are ONE genius away. -- P.S. I'm building a course on how the world actually works. Not the surface story, but the incentive layer underneath it. Who funds what. Who benefits from what you believe? Why the official explanation is rarely the complete one. Comment "yes" if you're interested in something like this. Waitlist opens soon.

I just went down this rabbit hole, and it's so fascinating. So apparently, airlines have been selling your data to competitors for years. Strange right? I know, hear me out... It's called dynamic pricing. Dynamic pricing is when a company charges you a price calculated specifically for you, based on what they know about you, rather than a fixed price everyone sees. Nobody called it surveillance. The mainstream take on dynamic pricing is that it's sinister and new. Corporations secretly watching, jacking up prices, exploiting desperation. That anger is mostly right. Dynamic pricing isn't a bug that crept into capitalism. It's the entire architecture of how information asymmetry becomes profit. Airlines have always charged different people different prices for the same seat. Hotels. Insurance companies. Actuarial profiling predates the internet. What changed isn't the behavior. It's the resolution. Your battery at 8% telling Uber you're stranded is a higher-resolution version of the taxi driver who saw you running in the rain and didn't turn the meter off. The new part is the precision. They know you searched the same flight six times. They know you're on a Mac. They know your zip code and how long you've been sitting on the page. Old dynamic pricing responded to demand. Surveillance pricing responds to you. The counterargument from the market side is real. Personalization can mean discounts. But companies optimizing for revenue will use behavioral data to find the ceiling, not the floor. What are your thoughts? Is this fair or pure greed from big corp? That's a wrap. Li is a gallery for the greatest minds in economics, psychology, and history. Follow if that interests you. We are ONE genius away. -- P.S. I'm building a course on how the world actually works. Not the surface story, but the incentive layer underneath it. Who funds what. Who benefits from what you believe? Why the official explanation is rarely the complete one. Comment "yes" if you're interested in something like this. Waitlist opens soon.

GeniusThinking

38,698 views • 3 months ago

'Surveillance pricing' is when companies use your data to charge you more. Your browsing. Your income. Your mouse movements. Data brokers sell it to corporations who want to find your "pain point," the highest price you'll pay. Surveillance pricing is wrong. I'll vote to ban it

'Surveillance pricing' is when companies use your data to charge you more. Your browsing. Your income. Your mouse movements. Data brokers sell it to corporations who want to find your "pain point," the highest price you'll pay. Surveillance pricing is wrong. I'll vote to ban it

Dan Osborn

22,500 views • 9 days ago

Your browsing history, your location, your purchasing patterns. Companies are collecting huge amount of data on you—and some are using it to charge you higher prices. It’s predatory. And it needs to end.

Your browsing history, your location, your purchasing patterns. Companies are collecting huge amount of data on you—and some are using it to charge you higher prices. It’s predatory. And it needs to end.

Cory Booker

37,606 views • 4 months ago

.Mallory McMorrow: A plane ticket shouldn’t spike $200 more because a company tracked your online search history and data. That’s why I’m pushing legislation in Michigan to protect consumers from surveillance pricing schemes.

.Mallory McMorrow: A plane ticket shouldn’t spike $200 more because a company tracked your online search history and data. That’s why I’m pushing legislation in Michigan to protect consumers from surveillance pricing schemes.

Team McMorrow

10,613 views • 1 month ago

Michigan Senator Mallory McMorrow reveals companies are using dynamic algorithmic pricing to charge Americans more based on your data She says this is even being used to increase rents - A $240 flight to Florida increased to $423 because you looked twice - Uber pricing doubled because phone battery was below 20% “Usually it's about 18 bucks, but oh, the app knows that your phone battery is low, so it's double the price. Companies are using algorithmic pricing tools to study your personal data and charge you exactly what they think you'll pay. This is called surveillance pricing, and it means that companies can charge you completely different prices for the exact same thing, and it's not just happening to consumers. Some companies are now using similar algorithms to track workers and decide their wages, hours, and schedules, even their locations — My plan bans companies from setting personalized prices based on your data — It protects all workers, including gig workers and contractors from algorithmic wage discrimination, and it cracks down on companies using these systems to coordinate things like higher rents and insurance premiums, because the economy shouldn't be a rigged game.”

Michigan Senator Mallory McMorrow reveals companies are using dynamic algorithmic pricing to charge Americans more based on your data She says this is even being used to increase rents - A $240 flight to Florida increased to $423 because you looked twice - Uber pricing doubled because phone battery was below 20% “Usually it's about 18 bucks, but oh, the app knows that your phone battery is low, so it's double the price. Companies are using algorithmic pricing tools to study your personal data and charge you exactly what they think you'll pay. This is called surveillance pricing, and it means that companies can charge you completely different prices for the exact same thing, and it's not just happening to consumers. Some companies are now using similar algorithms to track workers and decide their wages, hours, and schedules, even their locations — My plan bans companies from setting personalized prices based on your data — It protects all workers, including gig workers and contractors from algorithmic wage discrimination, and it cracks down on companies using these systems to coordinate things like higher rents and insurance premiums, because the economy shouldn't be a rigged game.”

Wall Street Apes

428,779 views • 3 months ago

Every search, every click your browser history is being tracked, collected and sold. With Sui DePIN, take ownership and earn from the data that’s rightfully yours. Make your data work for you, not others.

Every search, every click your browser history is being tracked, collected and sold. With Sui DePIN, take ownership and earn from the data that’s rightfully yours. Make your data work for you, not others.

Data Agents

28,555 views • 1 year ago

We’re introducing legislation to ban AI surveillance pricing in Michigan to stop companies from using your data to price-gouge you on everything from plane tickets to groceries.

We’re introducing legislation to ban AI surveillance pricing in Michigan to stop companies from using your data to price-gouge you on everything from plane tickets to groceries.

MI Senate Dems

21,066 views • 1 month ago

This is how Instacart got exposed accessing your personal data to algorithmically adjust grocery store prices based on each person (dynamic pricing) The investigators at More Perfect Union say this is starting to happen everywhere and needs to be regulated “Five months of digging, what we found is bigger than Instacart. Yes, inflation is real, but something else has been pushing prices higher this whole time. There's a system, one that grocery stores and tech companies built together. It learns from every purchase. It's not just online, it's in the physical stores you walk into. With the primary goal, maximize profit. Here's how we uncovered it, how it's turning the grocery business into a gold mine, and why, without regulation, your grocery bill may keep climbing no matter what happens with inflation” The held an experiment with a bunch of people in a room, everyone ordered the same 20 items to the same address. Each one from their personal phone. The app Instacart gave everyone different prices After researching they found 3 different prices were available for everyday items like cereal, adjusted based on your data After being caught Instacart denied they were using dynamic pricing but announced they were no longer going to adjust prices based on data But that’s one company, this video goes into great detail showing it’s coming everywhere

This is how Instacart got exposed accessing your personal data to algorithmically adjust grocery store prices based on each person (dynamic pricing) The investigators at More Perfect Union say this is starting to happen everywhere and needs to be regulated “Five months of digging, what we found is bigger than Instacart. Yes, inflation is real, but something else has been pushing prices higher this whole time. There's a system, one that grocery stores and tech companies built together. It learns from every purchase. It's not just online, it's in the physical stores you walk into. With the primary goal, maximize profit. Here's how we uncovered it, how it's turning the grocery business into a gold mine, and why, without regulation, your grocery bill may keep climbing no matter what happens with inflation” The held an experiment with a bunch of people in a room, everyone ordered the same 20 items to the same address. Each one from their personal phone. The app Instacart gave everyone different prices After researching they found 3 different prices were available for everyday items like cereal, adjusted based on your data After being caught Instacart denied they were using dynamic pricing but announced they were no longer going to adjust prices based on data But that’s one company, this video goes into great detail showing it’s coming everywhere

Wall Street Apes

176,092 views • 6 months ago