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well, this works better than Claude for Android or ChatGPT for Android has ever worked. It runs on my phone directly, no cloud vm. I can live edit it. Its multiplayer. And I can pick any provider/model. Just added artifacts. There is no moat. 24h of slop, developed on... show more
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any chance you open source it once durable is battle tested?
no moat means it's a tool of the people, the people of pi (cringe ik)
“There is no moat” might be the most important part of this post. When one developer can rebuild features from major AI products in 24 hours, the moat probably isn’t the interface anymore. It’s distribution, context and ecosystem 😉
Release the source for learning
What's about Pi Durable that made this possible? I built something similar but much lower quality with old Pi
low bar, but a bar nonetheless
Personal software ftw. But sure you have the expertise
Lore accurate prompting, thank you Mario
This is so exciting!
Neat! I started with native Wiregaurd on @FirewallaLLC and then took a little tangent with Codex Micro inspired version.. @pidotdev & Codex app server made it possible!
This would be a great interface for Pi running on a workstation.
Dream come true
Which model did you slop with?
live editing the app from the phone with no cloud vm is the part that got me, that is a real pocket workstation
Though maybe the moat here is iOS as I don’t think they’d let folks run this? 😅
oh, i'll find a way. fuck their restrictions.
@csinco again, - I've been optimizing it as much as I can (and the core is also used by OpenMinis)
@csinco i love you
In multiplayer, does one person’s ‘fix this’ change the app for everyone?
on that server, yes
Running where your logins already live is the part non-developers will care about. Does it keep working with the screen off, or does the phone have to stay awake?
I'd happily switch models more often if the workspace came with me: files, task history, and unfinished work. Keeping that layer on the phone makes the provider choice feel much less permanent.
So is it react-native or how did you use pi durable or is pi running on cloudflare or similar?
what happens when android kills it mid subagent run?
it doesn't it's a foreground service. since it's mostly waiting for llm reponses, it also barely costs any battery. compiling rust code would be a problem, granted.
![Ever since I wired Claude Code to WhatsApp 3 weeks ago, I built a stupidly large infra around it. I mean, opus built it. No clue how the code even looks. The entire thing was vibe coded using my phone. I wanted to see how far I could push it without touching the computer. Everything via WhatsApp. Build what I need on the fly. So the resulting infrastructure will already be battle tested for software development. The entire thing was streamlined with nearly no manual interventions, everything was communicated via WhatsApp using a single script establishing this connection. If the script is down, I need to get home to start it again to resume the development. Claude was upgrading it, debugging it, restarting it while maintaining constant uptime so it could keep communicating with me. I stressed Claude about it, telling it that it will be “in the dark” and other words that deliberately sound scary about losing communications if the script dies. I also refused git and refused cloning the code, I wanted to see Claude adapting to work on a *LIVING* system. The way this whole thing works: Claude has its own dedicated phone number that I am paying for. A real WhatsApp account for it is installed on a real iPhone that is sitting on my desk. All is registered under my name, this is legit setup with no hacks and tricks. I’ve set up a WhatsApp “Community” and multiple different groups under it. Both me and Claude are the admins, so Claude could edit it on my behalf. Each group is a project I am working on and has its own isolated context. The Group description is a system prompt that gets auto-appended to the larger system prompt explaining this setup in general. When I send a message it’s an instant interrupt to Claude Code’s process, just like in the terminal. Voice notes are seamlessly transcribed with a local Whisper model. Images are used with multimodal reading in an isolated parallel session. Multiple groups running in parallel so I can work on all projects at the same time. No cross-talking, everything has an isolated context and history. And because it’s local on my own machine: Everything is REAL. The browser is REAL. I am connected as myself on it to all services because I actually use it in real life. Claude has unlimited internet access, just like humans who use actual browsers. It utilizes custom-made browser tools that I made to control any browser session it wants. Depending on the situation, it can either connect to my existing session or create one for its own. (You can tell it ‘look at my browser for a sec’ then talk about the current page you are on and it just works, pretty cool) My custom browser tools are not perfect (not by a long shot) but I managed to make them work well to the point they are somewhat reliable. This gives Claude full access to my real creds and all the services I actually use. I’m productive AS HELL with this. It really feels like a personal assistant. I ask it to read my emails and msgs, check x .com for news, research arxiv papers, write code, run experiments for me, investigate and reverse engineer github repos, even use my credit card and order things. [I try not to do this one a lot lol so far no disasters]. All from my phone. Super convenient. This is not a product or an open source project (maybe soon of it will make sense). This is just an ugly script I hacked the entire thing is ~600 lines. (ok maybe i did look at the code, but i swear i didn’t edit!) You can also vibe code this from scratch pretty fast and it will probably even end up better. This is just a cool thing so I’m sharing. It is a real speed booster for many things I do on daily basis, mostly boring things. Forcing my routine into some new “agent platform” just didn’t feel right for me. WhatsApp is where I already communicate and look for messages, so I decided that my agents will live there too. AGI in my pocket 24/7.](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2000642897402880491/amplify_video_thumb/2000642716951064582/img/ReuTixQFFAAQc_x0.jpg)
