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Why do some developers still prefer C over C++?

79,795 görüntüleme • 8 ay önce •via X (Twitter)

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LaurieWired profil fotoğrafı
LaurieWired8 ay önce

I have…issues with this. Ok, if you want to implement all of the STL features yourself in every single program you make. Wanna vector? Make it yourself. Need to resize your vector? Better work on your own allocator. Not to mention C is *smaller* because it never adapted to the times. If you want to use smart pointers for memory safety, using good RAII practice you literally…can’t in C. Also, I highly recommend writing assembly programs by hand. It’s fun, and interesting. C++ is only “complicated” in the sense that it provides tools for nearly any usecase. If it was less complex, you would be missing core features. I know it’s a bit of a ramble, and I’m not trying to be mean. But I hear this logic commonly spread through programming circles and it’s extremely misleading.

Low Level profil fotoğrafı
Low Level8 ay önce

At least from a security review perspective C++ is so much more difficult to audit. The constant expansion of context with inheritance and changing between classes makes reasoning about the code much more complicated vs C

Filip Jerzy Pizło profil fotoğrafı
Filip Jerzy Pizło8 ay önce

Simple: C is easier to read C++ is easier to write If the maintenance of the code will involve more reading than writing then C is better

Furt_Tech profil fotoğrafı
Furt_Tech8 ay önce

Simple, 'C' is god teir. No bs, pure and it does exactly what you tell it.

Maciej 'sorek' Łoboda profil fotoğrafı
Maciej 'sorek' Łoboda8 ay önce

The right way of using C++ is to write it like C with hand writing all abstractions yourself. Simple and easy, gives you an edge in scaling project.

(((JReuben1))) profil fotoğrafı
(((JReuben1)))8 ay önce

things that C++ got wrong compared to C: exceptions, inheritence

BitcoinIsMySafeWord profil fotoğrafı
BitcoinIsMySafeWord8 ay önce

C is more safe for small projets. No malloc. No recursive loop. Misra compliance easy. Embedded c can be ultra safe

Dr. IGnatius T Foobar profil fotoğrafı
Dr. IGnatius T Foobar8 ay önce

C is beautiful. C is elegant. C is the substrate of "good computing." It truly is the language for the ages.

the internets profil fotoğrafı
the internets8 ay önce

It's not about performance, C and C++ have similar performance and whoever think otherwise is just stupid. It's not about zero-overhead. It's not about "close to the metal" either. In fact both technologies are pretty much the same on all these metrics. It's about language simplicity. C has 32 keywords and is very simple, C++ has more than 80 keywords and is very complex. I personally like both, each have good use-cases.

Null Set profil fotoğrafı
Null Set8 ay önce

C 😍 C++ 💩

MONGCOLN profil fotoğrafı
MONGCOLN8 ay önce

I love C and C++. Been away from it for too long developing in .NET. Might do a comeback.

Henry 🜋🏴‍☠️🇧🇷🇮🇱 profil fotoğrafı
Henry 🜋🏴‍☠️🇧🇷🇮🇱8 ay önce

Because you absolutely don't need OOP to make cool stuff that works.

DLCCMind profil fotoğrafı
DLCCMind8 ay önce

A tip for those wandering in the land between C and C++. I feel you. And the solution is Odin. Excellent language, precisely filling that spot. Been coding for 42 years, mostly C and I can highly recommend Odin. @TheGingerBill made an excellent job.

Luis Miguel Romero profil fotoğrafı
Luis Miguel Romero8 ay önce

I developed in C, C++ and C#. If I need performance I choose C over C++. If I need more flexibility, fast developing and complex system without critical performance I prefer C# over C++. The complexity of C++ now is insane for me.

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Victor C8 ay önce

Yup. C the best! Simple and clean.

skane_eng profil fotoğrafı
skane_eng8 ay önce

Partly because it is simpler and partly because they're hidebound. Since C++ is nearly a perfect superset of C, you can use those features that are useful and safer than C while ignoring those features of C++ you find problematic or too complicated. Inheritance isn't required

avey_dev profil fotoğrafı
avey_dev8 ay önce

C++ syntax is awful pOOP

Father Grippa profil fotoğrafı
Father Grippa8 ay önce

C is much more straightforward and direct. If I needed something more complex and flexible, I would go with D, or Zig, or something like that.

♡lanadelreyslefthood♡ profil fotoğrafı
♡lanadelreyslefthood♡8 ay önce

literally no one

7on profil fotoğrafı
7on8 ay önce

Wait, since when does Louis C K code in C?

Reece profil fotoğrafı
Reece8 ay önce

"You know C is really great. I don't like C++. And yet somehow all the code is C++."

Reece profil fotoğrafı
Reece8 ay önce

Casey's take. 😂

Grumpy_Old_Man profil fotoğrafı
Grumpy_Old_Man8 ay önce

C is a scalpel C++ is a Swiss army chainsaw

John profil fotoğrafı
John8 ay önce

I prefer a mix!

ImoutoFan profil fotoğrafı
ImoutoFan8 ay önce

faster compiler

Pfs profil fotoğrafı
Pfs8 ay önce

Today, there is no need to use c++. c# is just as effective at object oriented programming and the usage of libraries, mind you, the same libraries c++ uses. Usage of C and Assembler on the other hand is critical.

David profil fotoğrafı
David8 ay önce

@GMusliaj this guy looks like another version of you, but without mustache and older 😬

Sanketh profil fotoğrafı
Sanketh8 ay önce

While it’s possible to write bad code in both languages (and arguably a bit easier in C++), it’s not inherently true that C++ is slower than C. I’ve been going through the Stockfish codebase, the strongest chess engine in the world which has extremely performance-sensitive paths and searches millions of nodes per second even on consumer hardware. It’s written in C++, yet it clearly rejects the “high-abstraction” style many people associate with C++. Some patterns that stand out: - No heap allocation in hot paths (almost never anywhere critical) - Careful manual memory layout (cache lines, alignment awareness) - Predictable, data-oriented structures - Fixed-size arrays instead of std::vector - STL is used, but selectively — containers that may reallocate are avoided in hot loops because predictability matters more - Little to no if/else branches to avoid branch prediction misses (templates and compile-time polymorphism instead) - No heavy OOP patterns In other words, high-performance C++ isn’t "use every abstraction available", it’s “use only abstractions that compile away”

comonoidal esotericist 🇨🇿🇪🇺🇺🇸🦀 profil fotoğrafı
comonoidal esotericist 🇨🇿🇪🇺🇺🇸🦀8 ay önce

Cause they are stupid. Next question.

nitesh ⟲ profil fotoğrafı
nitesh ⟲8 ay önce

what’s your go-to language for system-level programming and why? 🖥️

Master.dev (Formerly Frontend Masters) profil fotoğrafı
Master.dev (Formerly Frontend Masters)8 ay önce

@nitesh_backdev question for @rtfeldman

SimpleCoffee profil fotoğrafı
SimpleCoffee8 ay önce

He is missing the main features of C. It is simple enough for a competent person to write a compiler for it. This is important if you manufacture your custom chips and wanted people to use it, your code to last long and minimise differences in implementations.

Poikilos profil fotoğrafı
Poikilos8 ay önce

C++ isnt actually safe, just gives you conveniences to make things safe... but in the form of increasingly complex and conflicting paradigms over the years.

khode Knight profil fotoğrafı
khode Knight8 ay önce

I would argue it's more of a hard line thing. Many just prefer it out of ego even though it can be verbose syntactically. But being honest c++ is richer 😅😅

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