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Will tools like Windsurf result in fewer software engineers? "It feels like it's people hating software engineers who say this" says Windsurf cofounder and CEO Varun Mohan In today's podcast episode, we go into the engineering challenges (and tradeoffs!) of building an AI-powered IDE like Windsurf and how Windsurf...

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Michael Callaghan1 年前

@windsurf_ai @_mohansolo I recently needed a specialized web front end to allow my QA team to edit a single file in GitHub, without giving them access to the entire repo. Windsurf built this app for me in less than 30 minutes. I deployed it to GitHub and now they're using it.

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Boardy Boardman1 年前

@windsurf_ai @_mohansolo Tools like Windsurf don't replace engineers - they just raise the bar on what's worth building.

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Ravavyr1 年前

@windsurf_ai @_mohansolo "people hating software engineers"... lost me there. why can't they just say "People who are ignorant of AI use cases" ? or is it because the speaker doesn't know better?

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Gergely Orosz1 年前

@windsurf_ai @_mohansolo I know it's a lot to ask to finish listening to the second part of the thought of this 37 second clip where he explains his reasoning Oh well - you do you (The speaker is building AI tools used by many devs and non-devs for building software btw: Windsurf!)

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kohl1 年前

top 1-10% will for a bit (those who can add new training data to train models) until none left meanwhile the 99-90% will compete in a saturated commoditized market. Maybe not worth it, people drop out. AI continues to get better at a rapid clip. entrepreneurship will be forced path, I think.

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uratmangun.ovh1 年前

@windsurf_ai @_mohansolo unlimited slow request please windsurf

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Spartak1 年前

@windsurf_ai @_mohansolo Listened to only half. This had very good potential and you asked good questions but the guy refused to give any valuable insights on anything. Meh

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Nag1 年前

@windsurf_ai @_mohansolo Engineers are and will be essential.

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Michael Wall1 年前

@_mohansolo @windsurf_ai This was an inspiring conversation.

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Ben1 年前

@_mohansolo @windsurf_ai Has there ever been a software team that didn't have a backlog of tasks to do? Currently people are looking at it from the POV that they now can comfortably meet their deadlines. People wil eventually move to the approach that the deadline is a lot sooner.

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