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A DEVELOPER WALKED ON STAGE DRESSED AS A 1973 ENGINEER AND "PREDICTED" THE FUTURE OF PROGRAMMING. THE TWIST: EVERYTHING HE DESCRIBED WAS ALREADY INVENTED 40 YEARS EARLIER AND WE STILL REFUSE TO USE IT. 32 minutes from Bret Victor, doing the most quietly savage talk on our entire industry....

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yourdudeness 的头像
yourdudeness3 个月前

He should’ve worn a short sleeve button up shirt to really sell it.

Henk Poley 的头像
Henk Poley3 个月前

On YouTube:

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hanna.ink base.eth3 个月前

The bit where we act shocked by 50 year old ideas packaged as inonvation never gets old. Almost like the industry runs on amnesia by design

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PrometheusRoot3 个月前

Genius. We think we are always so smart, but we know that people in the past were not. So this a genius way to show that we are still not that smart. Excelent take!

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Medet Ahmetson3 个月前

He is not a programmer, he is a UX designer whom I respect as that. His idea revolutionized in the 90s to visual programming and wysiwyg. But matters mental model not what users see. So it’s failed dead end or not solved properly.

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MissileToe 🧟‍♂️3 个月前

So fake. This is not history. Very sloppy use of some random facts with wishful thinking then shaming ‘future’ developers.

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lagerskoy3 个月前

The real lesson is that programming did not have to become walls of text, we just normalized the interface that won

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TraderSven3 个月前

This was also expressed in the days of "data driven" programming and "object oriented" programming. It was incorporated in a language named Prolog and several others in the past.

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Phillip Lanos3 个月前

lol when he started talking about API’s

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Mark Szpakowski3 个月前

"Tell the machine your goal instead of every tiny step." This is also the current paradigm shift in biology (agency all the way down—cf @drmichaellevin) and what it implies for medicine: human-whispering—tell the body your goal instead of molecular micro-managing.

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JoeInNJ3 个月前

For those of you that remember the Shlaer-Mellor method...

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hammertime3 个月前

crazy how some of the "future of coding" was already figured out before the internet even existed

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david powell3 个月前

yea the trap of early vonnuman arcitecture still in use today , lead to the single sequential thread of each core on multi core cpus , and the bit he missed , the bottelneck of memory bandwith over cpu access , the ditching of pipline proccessors used on some higher end mainframes in favor of simpler cpus a pipleine cpu for example one with say 8 stages , could do a log(cos(squre(a*b)/c))*sin(b*c)) as a single instruction , just data in and data out of the pipline , passing the intermediate values though the pipe without having to store or recall them individualy , ther just passed on to the next stage , saving quite a few memory read writes ( even at L1 chache ) , so rather than having say a 48core cpu , a single core with a programable 48 core recofigurable pipeline would have a significant performance advantage , but like he did say how to program it would be somthing that would not realy allow the use of legacy code or coding methods on half hybrid not fully fpga but partial confugurable pipline sub proccessors , passing data to the next after it did its little bit , on silicone where its timing is local to its core , as the distance accross the silicone adds a delay time , one that still affects the l1 cache read times , let alone actual system memory ,, theres a lot of room for improvment using primeraly ideas that where used in the 60's/70's that seemed to have been long forgoten in the name of refusal to learn and adopt new methods of programming , quite a valid talk

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Gipp 🦅3 个月前

he actually predicted the future

Enterprise Software Architecture 的头像
Enterprise Software Architecture3 个月前

👀 Too many mistakes, most likely intentional for comic effect, but I must admit, it is amusing. 🤭

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Harry Tandy3 个月前

Bret Victor is a legend, this talk hurts

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Anthology of Interest3 个月前

There’s a lot of room for improvement for imperative programming already

Keenan Smith 的头像
Keenan Smith3 个月前

@andreasxirtus

Çağlar Araz 的头像
Çağlar Araz3 个月前

It is a continuous observation. AI idea has been there since 50's. So these observations are not shocking at all.

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yhousegone3 个月前

>quietly >lands AI slop

shmidt 的头像
shmidt3 个月前

bret victor is unhinged in the best way, every talk hits different

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HDP3 个月前

@0xKruger

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cvxv6663 个月前

thx for sharing old gold stuff, saved this

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Brent3 个月前

Actually far better than death by PowerPoint

Selim Tezel 的头像
Selim Tezel3 个月前

Yesterday's tomorrows. Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.

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Robert3 个月前

I was there in 1973 and the ties were twice as wide and half as long as this guy’s

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esp3 个月前

Brilliant

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GenJeFT3 个月前

@grok Hey Grok, Is the video in this tweet available on youtube?

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Carolina Eslava. Comunicación Estratégica3 个月前

Thanks for sharing!!!

Maja Stanislawska🇵🇱🏳️‍⚧️ 的头像
Maja Stanislawska🇵🇱🏳️‍⚧️3 个月前

he was some Erlang preacher, wasn't he?

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Ridark3 个月前

Such a thoughtful pace throughout this conversation

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Anthology of Interest3 个月前

😭

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