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browsers mostly skip updating hover state while you scroll so I made super-hover, a tiny utility library that checks what's under your cursor every frame! `pnpm add super-hover`

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daniel petho's profile picture
daniel petho4 months ago

so why would you use this? well, you probably shouldn't. deprioritizing hover updates is most likely done for performance, so browsers can focus on scrolling, painting and any layout work needed as new elements enter the viewport. which is probably what you want by default!

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daniel petho4 months ago

BUT :) updating hover every frame opens up some fun interactions, like this super sick section by Locomotive, which first gave me the idea a while ago:

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daniel petho4 months ago

I noticed myself recreating this functionality for the 3rd time for various personal projects and wished this existed, so here it is now

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Diego Rodriguez4 months ago

yo u should check @_chenglou midjourney gallery for an even simpler approach! in particular, the part about non-throttled cursor updates:

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daniel petho4 months ago

@_chenglou oh, how many times you showed his site to us haha, and i still missed (or forgot) about this part... thank u!!

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Shannon Code4 months ago

Can we please start shipping prompts already instead of shipping random npm packages?

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daniel petho4 months ago

you can def get to this in a few prompts, but at this point it would make more sense to just point the agent to your codebase and describe on which elements you want to achieve an effect like this. so i don’t think it makes too much sense to publish a general prompt but also if you are only worried about installing an npm pkg, you can also point your agent to the codebase on github and say, hey copy this without installing or something code is super short and doesnt have any runtime deps:)

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Shannon Code4 months ago

I just mean in general, and now days it’s almost safer to ship instructions to an agent than an npm package.

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DAKOKI4 months ago

hmm but how bad is it really for performance? Could it be worth it to add a nice touch to prod? Interesting!

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daniel petho4 months ago

it is def worse than just using the default `:hover` so I'd say it depends on your use-case: If it's for some fun creative effects, landing pages / portfolios, for sure, but i'd def avoid it for webapps or anywhere where perf is super super important will do some benchmarks later to get a more accurate picture tho

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Codedgar4 months ago

This should throttle or have performance considerations no?

daniel petho's profile picture
daniel petho4 months ago

yes, certainly haha will try to do some benchmarking later to get a more accurate picture how much worse it is tho

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Nikil Kuruvilla4 months ago

@AndrewPrifer Interesting I build an npm package called virtual-text-layout that uses pretext alongside Tanstack virtual to do infinite scrolls. I do have a live demo link on the package page.

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daniel petho4 months ago

@AndrewPrifer uu this seems interesting, i’ll take a look!

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vie ⟢4 months ago

AWESOME!!!!!!!!

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Meefs4 months ago

how you gonna show us selected ambient works and have no audio 😭😭

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daniel petho4 months ago

🫶

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Ankur4 months ago

No visible frame drops on react-scan. Thats optimised like crazy. Also im curious is there any other way of doing this? like we can calculate where we are on the container and according to the height of each element we can determine which element is active? @jh3yy

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daniel petho4 months ago

1. yeah react-scan can be a good proxy, but it doesn't give a full picture eg. on a more complex site with more elements, where the browser has to do much more work, I'd expect bigger differences between this and native :hover. I'll try to do some proper benchmarking later to get a more accurate picture tho 2. yeah you're right! as @asciidiego also pointed out, this can be achieved much more simply (and prob more performant) if you know your elements' positions/heights/layout etc: I think this library maybe has a place as a drop-in solution where you don't know, or don't want to manage all of that yourself - eg arbitrary tall elements, unknown layouts, framework rendered lists, etc. or idk, maybe I'm just trying to justify the work I did for this in hindsight hahah

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Quentin Merabet4 months ago

@AndrewPrifer @devenini + @plcossette coded

daniel petho's profile picture
daniel petho4 months ago

@AndrewPrifer @devenini @plcossette oh yes!

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Quentin Merabet4 months ago

@AndrewPrifer @devenini @plcossette Oh, funny! Didn’t see it!

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Nikola Hristov4 months ago

Genius.

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Aimeric4 months ago

Heck yeah

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CCJoerga4 months ago

Should have included some benchmarks about the performance.

daniel petho's profile picture
daniel petho4 months ago

will do!

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Brett4 months ago

So cool

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yuwen lu4 months ago

so good it makes my head spin

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rixardo4 months ago

can i supply chain attack this

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daniel petho4 months ago

the core package has no runtime dependencies, and react/vue are optional peer deps if you use said framework, if that's what you mean. but yeah, otherwise my npm account could be theoretically be compromised like any other account haha

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ali4 months ago

lovely

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leo san ⭐️ ⊹˚4 months ago

amazing work, as always! :)

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Andy Ramos4 months ago

@vaibhav_khulbe It’s the little things 🤌🔥

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Leo4 months ago

You can "hack" the browser's native optimization by making a small CSS animation based on margins, in a loop, and hidden. This way, the browser recalculates the hover on every frame.

daniel petho's profile picture
daniel petho4 months ago

interesting! do u have an example? or which property to animate?

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Leo4 months ago

I "accidentally" discovered this while building this website. There's a connection between the top marquee and the list. If you remove the marquee, the browser blocks the hover state when scrolling.

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RoversX4 months ago

Any performance issues?

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daniel petho4 months ago

in this demo none, but on a more complex website/lists i'd expect some differences. Will do some benchmarks later!

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Filip Wojda4 months ago

👌👌

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David Sloiko4 months ago

no. makes me dizzy

daniel petho's profile picture
daniel petho4 months ago

@sloikodavid i’d say whoever is using this would be responsible to just not use it on reduced-motion enabled. but fair feedback, will include an example about it in the docs, thank you!

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Andreas Kruszakin-Liboska4 months ago

Wow that’s something new! Is the difference really noticeable tho?

daniel petho's profile picture
daniel petho4 months ago

you mean on terms of performance? in this particular demo there is none, but on a more complex website/list I’d expect some differences

Andreas Kruszakin-Liboska's profile picture
Andreas Kruszakin-Liboska4 months ago

Yeah that was my question, very cool! Are you planning releasing other frameworks like these for performance optimized animations?

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max based4 months ago

dope and on trackpads?

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daniel petho4 months ago

trackpads acts like a mouse, so it should work the same unless I misunderstood your question haha

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max based4 months ago

oh so it lags behind yeah I wasn't noticing before

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timelapse4 months ago

Hovers should also be disabled when mouse button is down (during text selection)

daniel petho's profile picture
daniel petho4 months ago

good catch, will include it, thank u!!

daniel petho's profile picture
daniel petho4 months ago

for fun! :)

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Lokendra4 months ago

Won't degrade the performance?

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Tim4 months ago

What font is used here?

daniel petho's profile picture
daniel petho4 months ago

fira mono:)

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Awnish4 months ago

great project!

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N!hal4 months ago

tuff find

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Imtiyaz Ahmed4 months ago

Omggg! I would loved this months back when I was trying to build my long ass movie tracker. I had similar kind of interaction, didn't work well so skipped it THIS IS GENIUS! Where is my terminal, gotta install it

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Ali 🌱4 months ago

bro sent the link 😭 really wanna hover this one

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Isaac Hinman4 months ago

CPU = 100%

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Yassine Zaanouni4 months ago

Honestly impressed you noticed this at all, it's the kind of subtle UX 99% of devs scroll right past (pun intended). Bookmarked.

daniel petho's profile picture
daniel petho4 months ago

haha. but yes I think that also means this is a non-issue:)

Yassine Zaanouni's profile picture
Yassine Zaanouni4 months ago

These are the kinds of things that make an experience feel premium without the user even knowing why That’s what makes it premium 👌

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