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browsers mostly skip updating hover state while you scroll so I made super-hover, a tiny utility library that checks what's under your cursor every frame! `pnpm add super-hover`

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daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

so why would you use this? well, you probably shouldn't. deprioritizing hover updates is most likely done for performance, so browsers can focus on scrolling, painting and any layout work needed as new elements enter the viewport. which is probably what you want by default!

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

BUT :) updating hover every frame opens up some fun interactions, like this super sick section by Locomotive, which first gave me the idea a while ago:

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

I noticed myself recreating this functionality for the 3rd time for various personal projects and wished this existed, so here it is now

Diego Rodriguez profil fotoğrafı
Diego Rodriguez4 ay önce

yo u should check @_chenglou midjourney gallery for an even simpler approach! in particular, the part about non-throttled cursor updates:

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

@_chenglou oh, how many times you showed his site to us haha, and i still missed (or forgot) about this part... thank u!!

Shannon Code profil fotoğrafı
Shannon Code4 ay önce

Can we please start shipping prompts already instead of shipping random npm packages?

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

you can def get to this in a few prompts, but at this point it would make more sense to just point the agent to your codebase and describe on which elements you want to achieve an effect like this. so i don’t think it makes too much sense to publish a general prompt but also if you are only worried about installing an npm pkg, you can also point your agent to the codebase on github and say, hey copy this without installing or something code is super short and doesnt have any runtime deps:)

Shannon Code profil fotoğrafı
Shannon Code4 ay önce

I just mean in general, and now days it’s almost safer to ship instructions to an agent than an npm package.

DAKOKI profil fotoğrafı
DAKOKI4 ay önce

hmm but how bad is it really for performance? Could it be worth it to add a nice touch to prod? Interesting!

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

it is def worse than just using the default `:hover` so I'd say it depends on your use-case: If it's for some fun creative effects, landing pages / portfolios, for sure, but i'd def avoid it for webapps or anywhere where perf is super super important will do some benchmarks later to get a more accurate picture tho

Codedgar profil fotoğrafı
Codedgar4 ay önce

This should throttle or have performance considerations no?

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

yes, certainly haha will try to do some benchmarking later to get a more accurate picture how much worse it is tho

Nikil Kuruvilla profil fotoğrafı
Nikil Kuruvilla4 ay önce

@AndrewPrifer Interesting I build an npm package called virtual-text-layout that uses pretext alongside Tanstack virtual to do infinite scrolls. I do have a live demo link on the package page.

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

@AndrewPrifer uu this seems interesting, i’ll take a look!

vie ⟢ profil fotoğrafı
vie ⟢4 ay önce

AWESOME!!!!!!!!

Meefs profil fotoğrafı
Meefs4 ay önce

how you gonna show us selected ambient works and have no audio 😭😭

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

🫶

Ankur profil fotoğrafı
Ankur4 ay önce

No visible frame drops on react-scan. Thats optimised like crazy. Also im curious is there any other way of doing this? like we can calculate where we are on the container and according to the height of each element we can determine which element is active? @jh3yy

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

1. yeah react-scan can be a good proxy, but it doesn't give a full picture eg. on a more complex site with more elements, where the browser has to do much more work, I'd expect bigger differences between this and native :hover. I'll try to do some proper benchmarking later to get a more accurate picture tho 2. yeah you're right! as @asciidiego also pointed out, this can be achieved much more simply (and prob more performant) if you know your elements' positions/heights/layout etc: I think this library maybe has a place as a drop-in solution where you don't know, or don't want to manage all of that yourself - eg arbitrary tall elements, unknown layouts, framework rendered lists, etc. or idk, maybe I'm just trying to justify the work I did for this in hindsight hahah

Quentin Merabet profil fotoğrafı
Quentin Merabet4 ay önce

@AndrewPrifer @devenini + @plcossette coded

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

@AndrewPrifer @devenini @plcossette oh yes!

Quentin Merabet profil fotoğrafı
Quentin Merabet4 ay önce

@AndrewPrifer @devenini @plcossette Oh, funny! Didn’t see it!

Nikola Hristov profil fotoğrafı
Nikola Hristov4 ay önce

Genius.

Aimeric profil fotoğrafı
Aimeric4 ay önce

Heck yeah

CCJoerga profil fotoğrafı
CCJoerga4 ay önce

Should have included some benchmarks about the performance.

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

will do!

Brett profil fotoğrafı
Brett4 ay önce

So cool

yuwen lu profil fotoğrafı
yuwen lu4 ay önce

so good it makes my head spin

rixardo profil fotoğrafı
rixardo4 ay önce

can i supply chain attack this

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

the core package has no runtime dependencies, and react/vue are optional peer deps if you use said framework, if that's what you mean. but yeah, otherwise my npm account could be theoretically be compromised like any other account haha

ali profil fotoğrafı
ali4 ay önce

lovely

leo san ⭐️ ⊹˚ profil fotoğrafı
leo san ⭐️ ⊹˚4 ay önce

amazing work, as always! :)

Andy Ramos profil fotoğrafı
Andy Ramos4 ay önce

@vaibhav_khulbe It’s the little things 🤌🔥

Leo profil fotoğrafı
Leo4 ay önce

You can "hack" the browser's native optimization by making a small CSS animation based on margins, in a loop, and hidden. This way, the browser recalculates the hover on every frame.

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

interesting! do u have an example? or which property to animate?

Leo profil fotoğrafı
Leo4 ay önce

I "accidentally" discovered this while building this website. There's a connection between the top marquee and the list. If you remove the marquee, the browser blocks the hover state when scrolling.

RoversX profil fotoğrafı
RoversX4 ay önce

Any performance issues?

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

in this demo none, but on a more complex website/lists i'd expect some differences. Will do some benchmarks later!

Filip Wojda profil fotoğrafı
Filip Wojda4 ay önce

👌👌

David Sloiko profil fotoğrafı
David Sloiko4 ay önce

no. makes me dizzy

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

@sloikodavid i’d say whoever is using this would be responsible to just not use it on reduced-motion enabled. but fair feedback, will include an example about it in the docs, thank you!

Andreas Kruszakin-Liboska profil fotoğrafı
Andreas Kruszakin-Liboska4 ay önce

Wow that’s something new! Is the difference really noticeable tho?

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

you mean on terms of performance? in this particular demo there is none, but on a more complex website/list I’d expect some differences

Andreas Kruszakin-Liboska profil fotoğrafı
Andreas Kruszakin-Liboska4 ay önce

Yeah that was my question, very cool! Are you planning releasing other frameworks like these for performance optimized animations?

max based profil fotoğrafı
max based4 ay önce

dope and on trackpads?

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

trackpads acts like a mouse, so it should work the same unless I misunderstood your question haha

max based profil fotoğrafı
max based4 ay önce

oh so it lags behind yeah I wasn't noticing before

timelapse profil fotoğrafı
timelapse4 ay önce

Hovers should also be disabled when mouse button is down (during text selection)

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

good catch, will include it, thank u!!

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

for fun! :)

Lokendra profil fotoğrafı
Lokendra4 ay önce

Won't degrade the performance?

Tim profil fotoğrafı
Tim4 ay önce

What font is used here?

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

fira mono:)

Awnish profil fotoğrafı
Awnish4 ay önce

great project!

N!hal profil fotoğrafı
N!hal4 ay önce

tuff find

Imtiyaz Ahmed profil fotoğrafı
Imtiyaz Ahmed4 ay önce

Omggg! I would loved this months back when I was trying to build my long ass movie tracker. I had similar kind of interaction, didn't work well so skipped it THIS IS GENIUS! Where is my terminal, gotta install it

Ali 🌱 profil fotoğrafı
Ali 🌱4 ay önce

bro sent the link 😭 really wanna hover this one

Isaac Hinman profil fotoğrafı
Isaac Hinman4 ay önce

CPU = 100%

Yassine Zaanouni profil fotoğrafı
Yassine Zaanouni4 ay önce

Honestly impressed you noticed this at all, it's the kind of subtle UX 99% of devs scroll right past (pun intended). Bookmarked.

daniel petho profil fotoğrafı
daniel petho4 ay önce

haha. but yes I think that also means this is a non-issue:)

Yassine Zaanouni profil fotoğrafı
Yassine Zaanouni4 ay önce

These are the kinds of things that make an experience feel premium without the user even knowing why That’s what makes it premium 👌

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