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Everyone's asking why Bitcoin is lagging while the S&P prints all-time highs. Michael Saylor gave me the cleanest answer in Prague: "We're living right now in the summer of the AI bubble... $500 billion of capital is being lurped into the AI complex right now." His framing: a "massive...

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