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Fable with low reasoning is roughly comparable to GPT-5.5 medium on the 20 puzzles they both solved. Fable scored higher in 14 of those, and I think Warming Tonic illustrates how different quality alchemical machines look. Solve rate isn't everything, quality is important!

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Ben Holmes

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this is f**king insane Fable 5 goes away in 24 hours from Claude Code and someone just figured out how to get fable 5 reasoning in GPT 5.6 Sol with one prompt you have less than 24 hours to set this up as this takes away 20% of your usage limit here is how: 1) Paste the prompt and ask it to "make an operating manual" 2) Go the Codex App > Settings > Personalisation > Custom Instructions 3) Use GPT 5.5 / GPT 5.6 and now you have Fable 5 reasoning at 1/3 th the price save and bookmark it no matter what

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Kirill

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28,440 Aufrufe • vor 2 Monaten

Qwen 3.8 will be benchmaxxed slop second to fable 5 is such a hype statement , its not even close to kimi k3 and GPT-5.6 sol you can test it yourself on the qwen chat website currently available > token hungry > not that good as advertised , will test more The best part of kimi was that in blog they themselves wrote its not comparable to fable 5 and sol 5.6 in bunch of user experience stuff We need more truth like this in our industry , other than that i will run my vision test

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