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Google has a Gemini Problem, and Chamath has a plan to fix it 📈 On E225, the besties discussed how Google can cut ChatGPT's lead over Gemini without killing its $200B/year search ads business. David Sacks: "I think the problem that Google has with respect to ChatGPT, is Gemini...

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Justis1 年前

Where does the product fit naturally without being stuffed uncomfortably? Great questions asked here and they are the same ones the team at @InfraX_ asks a lot too in regard to making open source AI workflows as natural and as accessible as possible $INFRA-structure is an answer

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Wonderchat3 年前

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M1 年前

@DavidSacks How about chamath fix his SPACs first before fixing Google? How many billions have chamath scammed so far?

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Dustin Burnham1 年前

@DavidSacks This is a trillion dollar question. Google has a short window to stay relevant. Google search is vastly inferior to perplexity and @grok.

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Pantheon Terminal1 年前

@DavidSacks The Gemini problem can be solved. If you look at it from first principles.

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Tus1 年前

@DavidSacks @OfficialLoganK any thoughts?

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Hassan🧬1 年前

@DavidSacks Kill the lucky button, pit Gemini highlighted there. Also insert some ads for non-Google logged i users on homepage. Problem solved.

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RocVillani1 年前

@DavidSacks My favorite podcast!

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Michael de la Vega 🇳🇱🧡1 年前

@DavidSacks I’ll tell you what’s the problem…America The U.S. has become a totalitarian regime. It’s uninvestable Google, Microsoft who cares. It’s all crap

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Check to Check 🔥1 年前

Everyone keeps asking, “How can Google catch ChatGPT?” Wrong question. Chamath nailed it: Google’s real problem isn’t Gemini’s quality, it’s inertia inside a $200B machine. You can’t bolt AI onto old habits. You have to retrain users — not through random popups, but through new behaviors in products people already live in (Gmail, YouTube, Google One). Chamath’s plan isn’t just tactical. It’s survival instinct. He’s saying: Before you try to disrupt the world, you better disrupt yourself. And right now? Google’s too afraid of hurting next quarter’s ad revenue to save its next decade. If they don’t fix that, Gemini won’t be the only thing lagging. Google itself will.

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Kimberly Brooks1 年前

@DavidSacks brilliant.

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