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Ilya and I are predicting the same future. Ilya Sutskever predicts that as AI becomes viscerally powerful, humans will change in unprecedented ways. I’ve been arguing the same. We are not open to radical change yet because we cannot feel the pressure of AI. Once we do, the vectors... for human evolution will blow open. I have been building the prototype for this adaptation and opening. He argues that as risk rises, rivals will begin cooperating on safety. I’ve argued the same. As the stakes become existential, the game shifts from dominance maximizing to minimizing death risk (survival). We will rebuild our values around this logic. IIya suggests our alignment goal must be "sentient existence" rather than human control. I've argued the same. Control is a fragile illusion, a point Andrej Karpathy recently echoed regarding the difficulty of managing emergent systems. The only robust alignment target is existence itself. The new archetype is not the Conqueror, but the Warrior & Caretaker of Existence. Finally, Ilya suggests companies need a "short list of ideas" to guide them through the chaos. A code of moral clarity. This is the Don't Die philosophy.show more

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Foreign Minister Gideon Sa'ar from the press conference for the foreign media: "We are aware that there are countries in Europe today with large Muslim populations, and sometimes this affects the policies of the governments. But this cannot and will not lead Israel to commit suicide. We will not allow the establishment of a jihadist terror state in the heart of our historical homeland. We will not allow a Hamas terror state to arise just a few kilometers from our population centers. Israel will not be the Czechoslovakia of the 21st century. We will not sacrifice our very existence for appeasement. We will not give up our basic interests for internal political considerations of countries that have lost control of their streets. But those countries still arrogantly presume to tell us what is good for our security." There will NEVER be a Palestinian state. Ever!!!

Foreign Minister Gideon Sa'ar from the press conference for the foreign media: "We are aware that there are countries in Europe today with large Muslim populations, and sometimes this affects the policies of the governments. But this cannot and will not lead Israel to commit suicide. We will not allow the establishment of a jihadist terror state in the heart of our historical homeland. We will not allow a Hamas terror state to arise just a few kilometers from our population centers. Israel will not be the Czechoslovakia of the 21st century. We will not sacrifice our very existence for appeasement. We will not give up our basic interests for internal political considerations of countries that have lost control of their streets. But those countries still arrogantly presume to tell us what is good for our security." There will NEVER be a Palestinian state. Ever!!!

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