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It's all about the loop. Agents accumulate state with every step of the loop. This state needs a new data primitive. That's Durable Streams 🧵👇

Electric

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Фото профиля Electric

Electric6 месяцев назад

The data primitive for the agent loop:

Фото профиля Electric

Electric6 месяцев назад

The agent loop accumulates state: messages, token streams, tool calls and results. A new kind of data that needs a new data primitive.

Фото профиля Electric

Electric6 месяцев назад

.@DurableStreams are persistent, addressable, real-time streams. Reactive, resumable and extensible, they are the data primitive for the agent loop.

Фото профиля Electric

Electric6 месяцев назад

Docs: Transports: Extensions: Examples:

Фото профиля Electric

Electric6 месяцев назад

Deploy now on Electric Cloud:

Фото профиля Jeremy Osih

Jeremy Osih6 месяцев назад

@DurableStreams I've been pretty excited for this !

Фото профиля Robert Balicki (👀 @IsographLabs)

Robert Balicki (👀 @IsographLabs)6 месяцев назад

@DurableStreams Folks on this thread may be interested in trying out Barnum, which is a programming language that makes it easy to orchestrate your agents. Looping, branching, etc all already exist (in programming languages)! We don't need to reinvent them.

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