Joe Schmid explains why the fine tuning argument is so compelling.

Need to update this, but still relevant:

We need to get this guy in our community

It appears that this Joe Schmidt is a fucking moron. At no point has he shown that the constants of the universe CAN BE TUNED in the first place. What drug is that idiot on?

Love the flow from the contingency argument that sets up the fine tuning and rational intelligibility and consciouness to be so powerful. It's disarming because its starts with "some fundamental reality" then builds. Never heard them connected that way.

Yeah it’s a culmination of evidence

It's still a God Of The Gaps argument mind, just the biggest Gap imaginable.

The problem w fine tuning is it has a real gap in explaining why an all-powerful God would need to work within the laws of nature. That's why I say it's the worst argument for theism.

It's so satisfying to hear him say the contingency (cosmological argument) from Pruss was compelling. I remember back when he was trying to bernadette paradoxes were just an unsatisfactory pair diagnosis. You can see me responding in this video at 25:28

99.99999%of this universe is absolutely hostile to life so no, this universe wasn't fine tuned for us. Only superstitious people with an ego believe such nonsense.

But it's not. The only way theism can be valid is if you can define and demonstrate this god thing. You can't.... so it doesn't matter how many "arguments" you try to have... it's irrelevant.

Man this is great.

Fine tuning is best argument for scientist conversion too.

Asteroids Meteors Supernovas Black holes Freezing cold space Earth 85% undrinkable water Mosquitoes with malaria Venomous snakes Venomous scorpions Allergies to bee stings Cancer Down’s syndrome Birth defects Yeah buddy. Quite the FiNe TuNiNg from your imaginary Jewish sky daddy.

Skeptics who finally surrender and open their heart suddenly see everything differently 🔥❤️

Good for him. Praise God. The arguments are kinda of compelling. We 🙏🏻 he grows in grace, wisdom & knowledge. God is good.

Fine Tuning Argument not really as compelling as you think. What exactly is limiting God from creating the universe any other type of way? God is Omnipotence he doesn’t need to fine tune the Universe. If God want something it just is without limitation.

Schmid: “Look how unlikely this universe is… therefore God.”

Apologetics level response.

I’m shocked this guy seems unaware of the puddle analogy

And as usual no one cares how much more fine tuned an infinite super mind would be. Every mystery is just stuffed wholesale in the magic God box without a hint of explanation.

First of all, we have no way of quantifying the probability of these alternate universes or constants. The fact that the speed of light is a specific constant tells us nothing about what alternatives would be possible.

It is only compelling to believers.

“In 1983 a British mathematician, Brandon Carter, introduced what he called the “anthropic principle inequality” to the scientific world. Carter took note of the fact that several billion years is the minimum time required for the universe to expand and develop sufficiently to allow for the existence of the human race or a similarly advanced species. Yet, according to his calculations, the maximum time window in which the cosmos can possibly sustain such a species amounts to less than a few million years.[6] In other words, it took a very long time to prepare the universe to sustain humans for a relatively short time.” Footnote 6. Brandon Carter, “The Anthropic Principle and Its Implications for Biological Evolution,” Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London A 310 (December 20, 1983): 347–63. From Why the Universe the way it is. Hugh Ross Page 113

Doesn't gravity and other forces 'explain' why the cosmos exists in the way it does? There's like math to prove it. Anyway, this gesticulating fellow fails to comprehend that there are umpteen reasons for observers of this universe, mainly because: Galaxies: ~200 billion to 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe. The 2-trillion figure comes from a 2016 Hubble Deep Field-based study. Stars: ~10^22 to 10^24 stars in the observable universe (roughly 10 sextillion to 1 septillion). That comes from multiplying estimated galaxy count by average stars per galaxy (~100–400 billion for a galaxy like the Milky Way, though most galaxies are smaller dwarf galaxies with far fewer stars). Planets: Far less certain, but estimates commonly cited are on the order of 10^18 to 10^21 planets (roughly a sextillion to hexillion range), based on exoplanet survey data (like Kepler) suggesting most stars host at least one planet on average, extrapolated across the estimated stellar population. These figures are extrapolated from the "known universe," and don't take into account spooky stuff like dark matter etc. All in all a hextillion planets seems like God wanted to fine tune the universe for way more reasons than an anthropic one don't you think?

This kid's personal incredulity is not data.

But here’s the thing. It’s not. It is what it has to be bc if it weren’t, we wouldn’t be here to check. This argument has far more merit than Tim Allen’s argument that there must be a god for you to bot believe in him bc his logic implies that Quetzalcoatl must exist for me not to believe in him.

I like the fine-tuning argument. It's easy to explain and easy to understand. However, given a God that could have made any arrangement of material variables, including none at all (if you believe in the afterlife) life-permitting, why do you think a relatively very small band of constants is better explained on theism? I think it's better explained on physicalism.

Design principle: Truly complex designs require many designers, as diverse minds are needed; the larger the design (consider spacecrafts), the more designers are required. To claim there was only one for the universe is an exaggeration based solely on mythology and religion.

So compelling. Yet still wrong. I love how you try and use the word compelling as an existence some proof.

I can’t explain it, therefore god 👌

This is the guy that "Just Converted" Ha! Ha! Too funny!

How can a Christian believe that consciousness evolved?

I once read / or heard it said, that it’s statistically more likely the Oxford English Dictionary was created by an explosion in a book factory than it is that the entire known universe was created randomly in the big bang.

Who set the parameters for life your all-powerful creator god so obediently fine-tuned his universe to?

Joe us a bit of an idiot on this point