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Nic Carter reveals a powerful enough quantum computer could steal Satoshi’s 1,000,000 Bitcoin in 6 blocks “There’s 35,000 addresses with 50 Bitcoin each, those are the Satoshi coins. The public keys are published, they’re on the ledger, they can’t be unpublished” “If you have a sufficiently good quantum computer,... show more

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