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"The government system is set up whereby it has to continually dilute the currency to keep it going. And that really represents a theft of the earnings and productivity of the middle to lower classes." Lawrence Lepard (Lawrence Lepard, "fix the money, fix the world") wrote The Big Print....

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"All the doomsayers assumed he had no access to capital markets, and that if he sold his Bitcoin, Bitcoin would plummet like a rock. In two weeks he's disproven the entirety of the mega bear case" Dave on how Saylor quietly dismantled the entire bear case in two weeks "The market cares about two things. One, what's going to be the value of their Bitcoin reserve, and two, does he have access to capital markets" "What have we learned the last two weeks? We've learned that he could sell Bitcoin and the price could rise and go up. And he's not even buying. And we learned that he could access capital markets without touching Bitcoin and raise cash if he needs to" "Basically what he's done in the last two weeks is disproven the entirety of the mega bear case, the disastrous circle, the flush down the drain"

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🎙️ Why Bitcoin Is the Only Escape from Fiat Collapse Ep. 74 with Peter Dunworth on You’re The Voice | Podcast by Efrat Fenigson My guest today is Peter Dunworth, a wealth strategist with over two decades in traditional finance, and now founder of The Bitcoin Adviser, a company helping investors buy, secure and manage their bitcoin. From a background in mortgage broking and family office advisory, Peter has become a trusted guide for those transitioning from fiat to Bitcoin. We sat down at Bitcoin Alive in Sydney to unpack the collapse of the fiat system, how Bitcoin restores financial integrity, and why recent moves like the SAB 121 repeal and strategic reserves are double-edged swords. Peter explains why banks may soon pay you to borrow, how Michael Saylor rewrote the rules of treasury management, and why Australia’s economy is quietly in freefall. This episode is an honest look at the future of money, the power of self-custody, and why Bitcoin remains the ultimate tool for financial freedom. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! 00:00 Coming Up… 01:22 Intro: Where is Bitcoin Adoption Today 04:30 “You Don’t Change Bitcoin, Bitcoin Changes You” 03:08 The Evolution of Bitcoin and Its Community 07:54 Self Custody with Trezor 08:23 BTC Prague 08:40 The Double-Edged Sword of Government Involvement 13:47 Intro to Peter & The Bitcoin Adviser 16:13 The Unsustainable Fiat System 19:33 How Will Bitcoin Change The Monetary System 22:05 Awareness Creation Via Shitcoins 22:48 Are We Witnessing The Change of World Monetary Order? 25:23 SAB 121: The Big News for Banking & Bitcoin 31:38 Australia's MacroEconomics & Societal Changes 37:43 MicroStrategy/Strategy’s Innovative Corporate Strategy 42:03 Free Markets, Bonds & Bitcoin's Role >>
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🎙️ Why Bitcoin Is the Only Escape from Fiat Collapse Ep. 74 with Peter Dunworth on You’re The Voice | Podcast by Efrat Fenigson My guest today is Peter Dunworth, a wealth strategist with over two decades in traditional finance, and now founder of The Bitcoin Adviser, a company helping investors buy, secure and manage their bitcoin. From a background in mortgage broking and family office advisory, Peter has become a trusted guide for those transitioning from fiat to Bitcoin. We sat down at Bitcoin Alive in Sydney to unpack the collapse of the fiat system, how Bitcoin restores financial integrity, and why recent moves like the SAB 121 repeal and strategic reserves are double-edged swords. Peter explains why banks may soon pay you to borrow, how Michael Saylor rewrote the rules of treasury management, and why Australia’s economy is quietly in freefall. This episode is an honest look at the future of money, the power of self-custody, and why Bitcoin remains the ultimate tool for financial freedom. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! 00:00 Coming Up… 01:22 Intro: Where is Bitcoin Adoption Today 04:30 “You Don’t Change Bitcoin, Bitcoin Changes You” 03:08 The Evolution of Bitcoin and Its Community 07:54 Self Custody with Trezor 08:23 BTC Prague 08:40 The Double-Edged Sword of Government Involvement 13:47 Intro to Peter & The Bitcoin Adviser 16:13 The Unsustainable Fiat System 19:33 How Will Bitcoin Change The Monetary System 22:05 Awareness Creation Via Shitcoins 22:48 Are We Witnessing The Change of World Monetary Order? 25:23 SAB 121: The Big News for Banking & Bitcoin 31:38 Australia's MacroEconomics & Societal Changes 37:43 MicroStrategy/Strategy’s Innovative Corporate Strategy 42:03 Free Markets, Bonds & Bitcoin's Role >>

Efrat Fenigson

40,749 Aufrufe • vor 1 Jahr

Michael Saylor may have just revealed the future of Bitcoin treasury companies… and Strive is already building it. In this conversation with Strive's Chief Strategy Officer Avik Roy, we break down: • Why Strategy’s latest earnings call changed the game • The rise of digital credit ($STRC, $SATA & beyond) • Why some Bitcoin treasury firms failed • Why selling Bitcoin can actually be bullish • The next phase of institutional $BTC adoption One of the most insightful discussions we’ve had on Bitcoin treasury strategy. 00:00 Avik Roy’s Bitcoin Origin Story 14:26 What Avik Actually Does at Strive 17:39 Why Strive Wants to Become a PURE Bitcoin Company 20:19 Will Bitcoin Treasury Companies Start Consolidating? 27:14 Europe vs US Bitcoin Treasury Markets 29:00 Michael Saylor’s BIGGEST Earnings Call Hint 30:25 Why STRC Is Dominating the Market 33:22 The Most Shocking Part of Strategy’s Earnings Call 37:32 “Bitcoin Is Fungible… But Not for Taxes” 41:19 The Credit Rating Catalyst That Could Change Everything 44:18 Why Some Smaller Bitcoin Treasury Companies Failed 48:19 Will SATA & STRC Keep Paying Huge Yields? 52:35 Which Bitcoin Treasury Company Is Next? 56:44 “Bitcoin Treasuries Are Like Private Equity in the 1980s” 01:01:18 Macro Outlook: Bitcoin, Inflation & The Fed 01:05:08 Final Thoughts & Where to Follow Avik Roy Full episode 👇
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Michael Saylor may have just revealed the future of Bitcoin treasury companies… and Strive is already building it. In this conversation with Strive's Chief Strategy Officer Avik Roy, we break down: • Why Strategy’s latest earnings call changed the game • The rise of digital credit ($STRC, $SATA & beyond) • Why some Bitcoin treasury firms failed • Why selling Bitcoin can actually be bullish • The next phase of institutional $BTC adoption One of the most insightful discussions we’ve had on Bitcoin treasury strategy. 00:00 Avik Roy’s Bitcoin Origin Story 14:26 What Avik Actually Does at Strive 17:39 Why Strive Wants to Become a PURE Bitcoin Company 20:19 Will Bitcoin Treasury Companies Start Consolidating? 27:14 Europe vs US Bitcoin Treasury Markets 29:00 Michael Saylor’s BIGGEST Earnings Call Hint 30:25 Why STRC Is Dominating the Market 33:22 The Most Shocking Part of Strategy’s Earnings Call 37:32 “Bitcoin Is Fungible… But Not for Taxes” 41:19 The Credit Rating Catalyst That Could Change Everything 44:18 Why Some Smaller Bitcoin Treasury Companies Failed 48:19 Will SATA & STRC Keep Paying Huge Yields? 52:35 Which Bitcoin Treasury Company Is Next? 56:44 “Bitcoin Treasuries Are Like Private Equity in the 1980s” 01:01:18 Macro Outlook: Bitcoin, Inflation & The Fed 01:05:08 Final Thoughts & Where to Follow Avik Roy Full episode 👇

One Chair

26,877 Aufrufe • vor 2 Monaten

Before we hit the stage at The Bitcoin Conference for a lively gold vs. Bitcoin discussion, I brought Peter Schiff back on the show to discuss markets, gold vs UST, Trump's tax cuts, and why Peter HODLs his own strategic Bitcoin reserve (in cold storage)... Enjoy the show and see you all in Las Vegas! Timecodes: 00:00 Bitcoin 2025 preview 3:34 Peter's Strategic Bitcoin Reserve 5:45 What is the Big Beautiful Bill? 10:16 Can we grow our way out of deficits? 16:03 Helping the working class 22:10 QE, big print 27:53 Will gold be revalued? 34:05 Gold vs. Bitcoin debate 37:39 Will gold replace the US Dollar? 42:44 Memecoins 44:21 Neutral reserve asset 49:11 Saving the U.S. economy 57:58 How much gold is in Peter's portfolio? 1:02:28 Is Bitcoin money?
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Before we hit the stage at The Bitcoin Conference for a lively gold vs. Bitcoin discussion, I brought Peter Schiff back on the show to discuss markets, gold vs UST, Trump's tax cuts, and why Peter HODLs his own strategic Bitcoin reserve (in cold storage)... Enjoy the show and see you all in Las Vegas! Timecodes: 00:00 Bitcoin 2025 preview 3:34 Peter's Strategic Bitcoin Reserve 5:45 What is the Big Beautiful Bill? 10:16 Can we grow our way out of deficits? 16:03 Helping the working class 22:10 QE, big print 27:53 Will gold be revalued? 34:05 Gold vs. Bitcoin debate 37:39 Will gold replace the US Dollar? 42:44 Memecoins 44:21 Neutral reserve asset 49:11 Saving the U.S. economy 57:58 How much gold is in Peter's portfolio? 1:02:28 Is Bitcoin money?

Natalie Brunell ⚡️

169,596 Aufrufe • vor 1 Jahr

Everyone's blaming Michael Saylor for this drawdown. Jamie Coutts looked at the data and came to a different conclusion: "#Bitcoin didn't top because of MicroStrategy." Jamie Coutts (Jamie Coutts CMT) is chief crypto analyst at Real Vision and one of the most rigorous liquidity researchers in the space. He joined me to explain the one force that actually drives this market: "Global liquidity is the main driver of all asset prices." We cover: - Why we're really in a bear market — a lack of demand, not one company: long-term holders selling peaked in Q3 last year, a classic cycle-top signal - His honest miss: his cycle risk model flagged the top, but he read it as a 30-40% correction — "it ended up being the cycle top" - Where the liquidity actually went: AI hyperscalers cutting buybacks and issuing debt, the SpaceX listing, and "the granddaddy of all" — record US government issuance - The debasement math: debt growing faster than liquidity, why "something's got to give," and why more liquidity has to enter this year or next - His warning: it often requires things to get worse before they get better - The 12-month playbook: tokenization and AI agents as the two demand drivers, and why supply discipline meeting real demand would be a first for crypto Thanks to Jamie for coming on New Era Finance Podcast. Thanks to OKX for being today's sponsor of the show. Make sure to use their 8% Deposit bonus with the link in the comment tweet. Timestamps: 00:45 - Michael Saylor's Impact on Bitcoin 02:47 - Global Liquidity, Debt and Interest Rates 09:02 - Bitcoin, AI and the Agentic Era 14:49 - Navigating Economic Uncertainty 30:37 - The Future of Crypto: Supply and Demand 39:00 - Bitcoin, Altcoins and Market Risk 46:33 - NEAR Protocol and Interoperability 52:05 - Zcash and Privacy Coins 54:55 - Market Momentum and Investment Strategy
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Everyone's blaming Michael Saylor for this drawdown. Jamie Coutts looked at the data and came to a different conclusion: "#Bitcoin didn't top because of MicroStrategy." Jamie Coutts (Jamie Coutts CMT) is chief crypto analyst at Real Vision and one of the most rigorous liquidity researchers in the space. He joined me to explain the one force that actually drives this market: "Global liquidity is the main driver of all asset prices." We cover: - Why we're really in a bear market — a lack of demand, not one company: long-term holders selling peaked in Q3 last year, a classic cycle-top signal - His honest miss: his cycle risk model flagged the top, but he read it as a 30-40% correction — "it ended up being the cycle top" - Where the liquidity actually went: AI hyperscalers cutting buybacks and issuing debt, the SpaceX listing, and "the granddaddy of all" — record US government issuance - The debasement math: debt growing faster than liquidity, why "something's got to give," and why more liquidity has to enter this year or next - His warning: it often requires things to get worse before they get better - The 12-month playbook: tokenization and AI agents as the two demand drivers, and why supply discipline meeting real demand would be a first for crypto Thanks to Jamie for coming on New Era Finance Podcast. Thanks to OKX for being today's sponsor of the show. Make sure to use their 8% Deposit bonus with the link in the comment tweet. Timestamps: 00:45 - Michael Saylor's Impact on Bitcoin 02:47 - Global Liquidity, Debt and Interest Rates 09:02 - Bitcoin, AI and the Agentic Era 14:49 - Navigating Economic Uncertainty 30:37 - The Future of Crypto: Supply and Demand 39:00 - Bitcoin, Altcoins and Market Risk 46:33 - NEAR Protocol and Interoperability 52:05 - Zcash and Privacy Coins 54:55 - Market Momentum and Investment Strategy

Michaël van de Poppe

102,022 Aufrufe • vor 8 Tagen

A gold analyst just made the best case for bitcoin I've heard all year. By accident. His whole thesis: "the beauty of gold is it's not used for anything." Send gold to $1,000,000 and nobody gets hurt. Send corn to $1,000 a bushel and people starve. Send oil there and the economy collapses. A reserve asset has to be useless, because money that doubles as something people need to consume punishes everyone the moment it goes up. He's right. He just stopped one step short. Gold still has day jobs. Jewelry, electronics, dentistry. Bitcoin is used for even less. It was built to be money and nothing else. No industrial demand fighting its monetary demand, nothing to melt down, no factory waiting on the supply. Gold is useless enough to be great money. Bitcoin is useless at everything except being money. Same principle, taken to its logical end. The purest reserve asset isn't the one with the fewest uses. It's the one with none.
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A gold analyst just made the best case for bitcoin I've heard all year. By accident. His whole thesis: "the beauty of gold is it's not used for anything." Send gold to $1,000,000 and nobody gets hurt. Send corn to $1,000 a bushel and people starve. Send oil there and the economy collapses. A reserve asset has to be useless, because money that doubles as something people need to consume punishes everyone the moment it goes up. He's right. He just stopped one step short. Gold still has day jobs. Jewelry, electronics, dentistry. Bitcoin is used for even less. It was built to be money and nothing else. No industrial demand fighting its monetary demand, nothing to melt down, no factory waiting on the supply. Gold is useless enough to be great money. Bitcoin is useless at everything except being money. Same principle, taken to its logical end. The purest reserve asset isn't the one with the fewest uses. It's the one with none.

Bitcoin Well

112,170 Aufrufe • vor 20 Tagen

Bitcoin has already won as Digital Capital. The next wave is Digital Credit, Digital Money, Digital Yield, and Bitcoin-backed capital markets — products that can bring trillions of dollars of traditional credit and money market capital onto Bitcoin. My interview with Cointelegraph at BTC Prague. 00:57 — Bitcoin in a drawdown: five major pullbacks in six years, stronger fundamentals, and rising dominance 02:23 — Digital Credit: from zero to an $11B+ asset class in 12 months 03:35 — Digital Money: bitcoin-backed yieldcoins and the path from 40 vol to 0 vol 04:31 — The opportunity for 8% yield in dollars, euros, yen, pounds, and francs 06:02 — $300T of credit, $30–50T of money markets, and the $10T opportunity for Bitcoin 07:19 — Why Bitcoin is winning economically, technically, and ethically 08:26 — Quantum computing, FUD, and why bear markets amplify Bitcoin debates 10:37 — AI capital rotation, Bitcoin’s current drawdown, and the path to recovery 11:36 — Six years of Strategy: why I would have moved faster into Digital Credit 12:22 — The ideal Bitcoin Treasury Company: common equity plus STRC-style Digital Credit 14:35 — The 32 BTC sale, the $100M bitcoin buyback, and why capital must back credit 17:02 — Defending the equity, credit, and bitcoin-backed capital structure 19:03 — The tradeoff: buy 200,000 BTC and sell 10,000 BTC — or buy and sell zero 20:15 — “Never sell,” Twitter trolls, and Strategy’s fiduciary obligations 22:06 — Bitcoin per share, long-term accretion, and accumulating through bull and bear markets 22:34 — $21B of equity raised in 16 weeks and ~$10B of bitcoin acquired this year 24:18 — The Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, US leadership, and supportive regulation 27:18 — Digital Credit, bank credit, and Digital Money bringing trillions onto Bitcoin 28:01 — Why Bitcoin can grow organically without central bank support
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Bitcoin has already won as Digital Capital. The next wave is Digital Credit, Digital Money, Digital Yield, and Bitcoin-backed capital markets — products that can bring trillions of dollars of traditional credit and money market capital onto Bitcoin. My interview with Cointelegraph at BTC Prague. 00:57 — Bitcoin in a drawdown: five major pullbacks in six years, stronger fundamentals, and rising dominance 02:23 — Digital Credit: from zero to an $11B+ asset class in 12 months 03:35 — Digital Money: bitcoin-backed yieldcoins and the path from 40 vol to 0 vol 04:31 — The opportunity for 8% yield in dollars, euros, yen, pounds, and francs 06:02 — $300T of credit, $30–50T of money markets, and the $10T opportunity for Bitcoin 07:19 — Why Bitcoin is winning economically, technically, and ethically 08:26 — Quantum computing, FUD, and why bear markets amplify Bitcoin debates 10:37 — AI capital rotation, Bitcoin’s current drawdown, and the path to recovery 11:36 — Six years of Strategy: why I would have moved faster into Digital Credit 12:22 — The ideal Bitcoin Treasury Company: common equity plus STRC-style Digital Credit 14:35 — The 32 BTC sale, the $100M bitcoin buyback, and why capital must back credit 17:02 — Defending the equity, credit, and bitcoin-backed capital structure 19:03 — The tradeoff: buy 200,000 BTC and sell 10,000 BTC — or buy and sell zero 20:15 — “Never sell,” Twitter trolls, and Strategy’s fiduciary obligations 22:06 — Bitcoin per share, long-term accretion, and accumulating through bull and bear markets 22:34 — $21B of equity raised in 16 weeks and ~$10B of bitcoin acquired this year 24:18 — The Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, US leadership, and supportive regulation 27:18 — Digital Credit, bank credit, and Digital Money bringing trillions onto Bitcoin 28:01 — Why Bitcoin can grow organically without central bank support

Michael Saylor

261,617 Aufrufe • vor 1 Monat

🎙️ The Sujal Show Ep. 4: Michael Saylor - Calling Bitcoin a Gamble to buying $50 Billion of Bitcoin On The Sujal Show, Michael Saylor (Founder of Strategy) revealed whether Bitcoin will crash 80% again, whether the AI bubble is about to burst, warned altcoin holders, addressed falling $MSTR stock, & exposed gold's flaws for 100M+ Indian gold investors 🇮🇳 We discussed: - Will Bitcoin crash 70–80% again? - Is a huge market crash coming due to the AI bubble & Currency Collapse? - His 3 wishes with genie - 1 minute pitch to sell your house & buy Bitcoin - India's 🇮🇳 $3T gold market, his message to every indian family - What to buy if you need money in 4 weeks, 4 years, or 10 years? - Digital capital (BTC) vs Digital credit (STRK) vs Digital equity (MSTR) - Best advice from 45 years of career - Can altcoins really do 100x? - Formula to protect wealth - Message to scared $MSTR & $BTC investors - Why Bitcoin is the new digital gold - Blueprint for young entrepreneurs & Bitcoin builders - And he said it in Hindi: "Bitcoin is future" Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:54 From $250K to $50B Journey 03:23 Why He Went All-In on Bitcoin 04:24 Message to Indian Gold Holders 05:25 Strategy $MSTR correction 07:00 Can Bitcoin 10x–100x Again? 08:20 AI Bubble & Market Crash Warning 09:15 Digital assets will make us wealthy 09:35 Will BTC Drop 80% Again? 10:39 Bitcoin is being less volatile 10:55 Best Advice of His Life 12:05 His Current Mission & Life Focus 12:40 Framework for Young Builders 13:07 15,000-page book everyone should read 13:28 “Bitcoin Is the Future” Thanks to Bitcoin MENA Conference, SkyNet X Solutions, & Bonnie for making this possible Watch The Sujal Show Ep. 4 and learn from the man who went all in on Bitcoin 👇
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🎙️ The Sujal Show Ep. 4: Michael Saylor - Calling Bitcoin a Gamble to buying $50 Billion of Bitcoin On The Sujal Show, Michael Saylor (Founder of Strategy) revealed whether Bitcoin will crash 80% again, whether the AI bubble is about to burst, warned altcoin holders, addressed falling $MSTR stock, & exposed gold's flaws for 100M+ Indian gold investors 🇮🇳 We discussed: - Will Bitcoin crash 70–80% again? - Is a huge market crash coming due to the AI bubble & Currency Collapse? - His 3 wishes with genie - 1 minute pitch to sell your house & buy Bitcoin - India's 🇮🇳 $3T gold market, his message to every indian family - What to buy if you need money in 4 weeks, 4 years, or 10 years? - Digital capital (BTC) vs Digital credit (STRK) vs Digital equity (MSTR) - Best advice from 45 years of career - Can altcoins really do 100x? - Formula to protect wealth - Message to scared $MSTR & $BTC investors - Why Bitcoin is the new digital gold - Blueprint for young entrepreneurs & Bitcoin builders - And he said it in Hindi: "Bitcoin is future" Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:54 From $250K to $50B Journey 03:23 Why He Went All-In on Bitcoin 04:24 Message to Indian Gold Holders 05:25 Strategy $MSTR correction 07:00 Can Bitcoin 10x–100x Again? 08:20 AI Bubble & Market Crash Warning 09:15 Digital assets will make us wealthy 09:35 Will BTC Drop 80% Again? 10:39 Bitcoin is being less volatile 10:55 Best Advice of His Life 12:05 His Current Mission & Life Focus 12:40 Framework for Young Builders 13:07 15,000-page book everyone should read 13:28 “Bitcoin Is the Future” Thanks to Bitcoin MENA Conference, SkyNet X Solutions, & Bonnie for making this possible Watch The Sujal Show Ep. 4 and learn from the man who went all in on Bitcoin 👇

Sujal Jethwani

130,705 Aufrufe • vor 5 Monaten