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We profiled the most hyped robotics company in the world. Inside Physical Intelligence with Co-founder Lachy Groom Exclusive interview in the Physical Intelligence robotics lab, who’re backed by top investors to build robots which work in the real world. Not just scripted environments. We cover: 0:00 So…What is Physical...

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