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We've been told since childhood that evolution can explain everything in Life. But here is something that evolution cannot explain - something which only makes sense if it was designed: DNA folding. One strand of DNA is ~2m or 6.5ft long. That 2 meter strand is folded tightly into... show more
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For anyone interested in the technicals of what actually makes DNA folding functional and why it's unexplained by evolution: For proper developmental folding of DNA multiple things must be in place and coordinated together from the start: - Specific short sequence motifs must appear in the right genomic locations relative to the genes and enhancers they help regulate. - Those motifs must be oriented correctly so the motors stop in the right places. - Multiple proteins must fold into shapes that specifically recognize those sites, interact with each other, and perform the mechanical work. - The whole set must be regulated so the resulting contacts differ by cell type and developmental stage rather than producing random or non-functional loops. These are not independent events. The sequence features are only useful if the proteins that read and act on them are already functional and matched to them. The proteins are only useful for developmental control if the right contact points exist in the right places. So we're talking about specific sequences in the DNA at the right places, specific proteins that can do the work of the folding that are fit properly, regulatory sequences and other molecules to help regulate the folding in the right time at the right place, and all of this works together in one system. The odds of such a sophisticated and precise system coming together by chance are so incomprehensibly impossible that no one has even tried to calculate it. Think about it. If you opened a suitcase and found all the clothes folded perfectly and neatly, would you think that was by chance or someone did it?

DNA = information type of structured order. Life requires replication. Replication requires functional information. That requires matter arranged in a specific order. So how did the FIRST functional arrangement originate? Blind, unguided chemistry, with no intelligence, planning or goal? Randomly finding one exact functional sequence could take vastly longer than the age of the universe... It was Intelligence not randomness.

A 6.5ft strand of DNA packed tighter than a speck of dust, not randomly, but folded into a precise 3D map that decides which genes turn on and build specific cells. Without the folding, it’s chaos and death. Without development, evolution can't even start. The code and the folding mechanism had to exist together from day one. That’s not unguided luck; that’s engineering and foresight. In the beginning, God spoke, and order, design, and life came into being. That's God, "In the beginning" ✝️

Amen brother praise the LORD 🙏

Thank you for sharing! Technology exposes the reason for today’s evolutionist stubbornly refusing to see is intentional blindness. Jesus talked about this willful blindness with another religious group. [Ironically it was over healing a blind guy] If you were blind,” Jesus told them, “you wouldn’t have sin. But now that you say, ‘We see’—your sin remains. Evolutionist simply want their sins.

Ignorant nonsense. DNA folding came long before complex bodies, and we can see the steps. 1. “Folding and development must exist together from the start.” They didn’t. Packaging DNA and using that packaging to switch genes on and off both appear in 1/x

All you did was a describe folding in different organisms and the mechanisms by which folding occurs, then declared, "Evolution did it!" Nowhere did you demonstrate how any of that evolved. You're free to believe evolution did it. But don't call it science.

You moved the goalposts, as creationists always do. But fine, here’s the evidence. Your claim was that this system “must exist together from the start” or development is impossible. Plants develop complex bodies without CTCF. That claim is refuted, whatever else you believe. 1/x

On “show how it evolved”: historical science works from evidence left behind, the same way geology reconstructs mountain building and forensics reconstructs a crime. Here’s what that evidence looks like: 2/x

1. We can see the binding sites being created. Mammalian CTCF sites carry the signature of specific transposon families, and different lineages (mouse, rat, dog) gained different sets at different times (Schmidt et al., Cell 2012). 3/x

Those are dated events in specific lineages, not just “evolution did it.” 2. We can see the variation selection works on. CTCF binding differs between individual humans because of single-letter DNA differences, and those differences are inherited (McDaniell Science 2010). 4/x

New and lost sites are happening in people alive today. 3. Shared ancestry is a testable prediction. If cohesin descends from bacterial SMC proteins, its subunits should match them in sequence and structure. They do. 5/x

A designer had no reason to reuse a bacterial chromosome-segregation motor, but evolution predicts exactly that. 6/x

When Charles Darwin published "The Origin of Species" in 1859 the prevailing view of animal cell structure was that it consisted of a jelly-like substance called "Protoplasm". This is discussed in the Wikipedia article . One paragraph from that article reads, "The idea that protoplasm of eukaryotes is simply divisible into a ground substance called "cytoplasm" and a structural body called the cell nucleus reflects the more primitive knowledge of cell structure that preceded the development of electron microscopy, when it seemed that cytoplasm was a homogeneous fluid and the existence of most sub-cellular compartments, or how cells maintain their shape, was unknown.[52] Today, it is known that the cell contents are structurally very complex and contain multiple organelles, the cytoskeleton and biomolecular condensates. The word protoplasm is mainly divided in to two parts cytoplasm and nucleus." The whole theory of evolution is based on Darwin's wrong understanding of cell structure and DNA which could not have been known to him in 1859. So why are we still teaching it as fact?

A perfect example of irreducible complexity. Irreducible complexity (and common sense) proves that macroevolution, as described in the Satanic Darwinian religion, is impossible. And childishly ridiculous on its face.

DNA folding is a problem for dumb-fuck creationism, not evolution Natural selection explains how gene regulation & chromatin organisation evolved. You’ve just described a complex biological mechanism & whined “God did it” instead of explaining anything. muppet

Evolution should've completely died the second we discovered DNA

Coded information in DNA is strong evidence for design and God.

fractals prove God and Macrocosms and microcosms.... Second law of Thermal Dynamics - " Nothing comes from nothing " hilarious !

Well, at least you didn't try to claim that YHWH is in your DNA.

Evolution was the training run. DNA is the weights file. AI gets trained on mountains of data, and everything it learned gets compressed into a file of weights. Life did the same thing. Nearly 4 billion years of training. Every survival, every extinction. The result got compressed into about 750 MB per genome. The folding this post talks about? That’s the drive deciding which files load. Same drive, different program. A liver cell or a neuron. A neuroscientist made this argument back in 2019. The genome is too small to store a brain, so it stores the recipe to build and train one. Not a new question, and it won’t be the last time it gets asked.

AI can't train without a functional coding framework to operate on. And Evolution doesn't happen without a functional system in place. Evolution can't be the answer when evolution requires the system it's supposed to explain.

You’re right that AI can’t train without a framework. So who built ours? You’re answering that with what humans understand today, and that’s the problem. This is probably way past anything we can comprehend. The AI model almost fits, though. Framework, training, stored weights. What if we’re nothing but AI in a wetsuit? A super advanced Optimus?

You're just giving a different name to God. Follow Jesus, my friend.

Evolution predates multicellular development by absolutely eons 💀🤣 DNA organisation occurs even in single celled organisms. Where’s your evidence that these mechanisms couldn’t evolve incrementally, let alone that intelligence was required? Describing modern chromatin regulation before assuming it had to emerge fully formed and that intelligence was somehow now necessary is still confirmation bias and reliance on Maslow’s hammer 🥱🥱

Look how you just assume your conclusion is true and then ask ME to prove it false.

I love it. Still not a single valid response from you in any interaction we’ve ever had 💀 So do you have some positive and distinguishable evidence for creation beyond your inability to explain the complexity? I’m not assuming your conclusion is false. I’m asking you to justify why it’s true. There’s a difference, I know you can only burden flip and try for tu quoque fallacy each time, but I’d love to even see a bit of positive evidence in order to consider your claim. 🤷♂️ Can you demonstrate that, or is complexity itself your entire argument? 💀

Every comment you make demonstrated you don't understand the argument. Try again. Steelman the argument. See if you can represent it accurately.

Another shift? 💀 So instead of any valid response, your best move is to ignore all challenges and instead demand a steelman of the already destroyed argument based on incorrect applications of current understanding? If you couldn’t respond to any challenge yet and instead depend on fallacious posturing, why would this new goalpost shift be considered valid?

If I do and you accept the steelman, with you accept the refutation of the logic applied afterwards, yes or no?

Once you actually challenge something I've said, then maybe a conversation can be had. Repeat my argument back to me, then make a valid response.

I did, the opening comment was exclusively that 💀 literally the core errors. Either way, we can ignore them for your unnecessary demand. You hold that functional developmental folding of DNA in multicellular organisms depends on multiple coordinated parts that must work together. This includes specific DNA sequence motifs in the right places, proteins that recognise those motifs and carry out the mechanical folding, and also regulatory systems that make the folding differ by cell type and developmental stage. These elements are interdependent and the sequences are useless without matching functional proteins, and the proteins are useless for controlled development without the right sequences and timing. No demonstrated gradual evolutionary pathway builds this complete functional system from simpler precursors while remaining viable at every intermediate stage. This coordinated interdependence is therefore seen as better explained as the product of intentional design than by undirected processes. Do you accept this as a valid description of your argument?

What is your evidence that DNA folding is evidence of a designer?

Excellent information! Our God is Almighty, wow!!💕

How can you infer that a deity did this? Have you ever seen a deity create anything? Life did not start with DNA nor chromosomes, BTW. It started with a very primitive form of RNA, which is why it took BILLIONS of years for more complex forms of life to come along.

"We've been told since childhood that evolution can explain everything in Life." Whomever told you that lied to you.

Evolution vs God Here is a quick intelligence test clip below. There is also a whole movie on the topic. So if you believe in “science” then there must be a scientific method. There is none. The scientific impossibility that everything came from nothing. Creation is the evidence of a creator. Wake up! There is zero fossil evidence of kinds changing kinds.

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14 Psalm 53

Evolution could not explain how an egg comes before a chicken- honestly, that's where it lost me but this is a great example too! 👍

And further more the generational memory packaged in the histones... wild

Tornado building a 747 out of the scrap yard

Some crap stain atheist will spin some BS his communist professors told him in 321

why would god design something so prone to failure?

But, but,... Science! God Almighty reveals Himself and the athiests refuse to see.

Study: Flagellin. Evolution is impossible.

DD pumps out slop filled with technical terms, comes to a conclusion that no one else does, & then says 'you don't understand' or 'you proved me right' as the corrections come in. It's annoying & childish, but also resigned to making irrelevant noise online, not serious debate.

Your first sentence betrays you don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about. Perhaps read information that is NOT written in crayon before you comment publicly on subjects. Until you do, you’ll continue to look like a lunatic trying to brainwash people with nonsense.

Evolution is obviously true to anyone with a brain, but when you dig deeper you realize it's ignorant to say humans evolved from apes randomly with no intercession. There is obviously a long history of interlopers editing our DNA The general idea is literally that simple.

Agreed, but “God” ain’t who we think it is.

Did you get this from the bible.

You’ve convinced me! Now please convince me that the designer is a Christian God.

Amen! ❤️🔥

DNA packaging predates animals. Histones have evolutionary homologs in archaea. A 2017 experimental study showed archaeal histones wrapping DNA into structures w essentially the same geometry found in eukaryotic nucleosomes.
