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NEWS: Waymo has introduced the Waymo World Model, "a frontier generative model built on Google DeepMind’s Genie 3 that sets a new bar for large-scale, hyper-realistic autonomous driving simulation." "By simulating the “impossible”, we proactively prepare the Waymo Driver for some of the most rare and complex scenarios—from tornadoes... show more
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One problem of such world model is that you have to generate hosts of the sensor suite data which ideally minimizes train/test mismatch. It is harder to generate LiDAR than RGB in physical accuracy in terms of photometric response — and you are coupled with very specific band pass filter and emitter to a very specific brand while considering the real material reflectance. It might generate something looks reasonable, but introduces bias to the training. One could argue that it could also overcome with augmentation but modeling noise perturbation of photons had been genuinely hard due to the quantum mechanics. Any extra layer of sensor generation limits your scale.

Maybe try simulating power outages...?

So they are finally copying Tesla. Got it 😂

About time Waymo copies Tesla

They might catch up to Tesla after all! Just 7 Billion miles to go🌞

An AI-based real world model. I hope Waymo keeps going this direction. We all know what's going to eventually happen as this gets better and better for them. It may take a different management team with less pride, but it will happen.

Maybe they should start by simulating REALISTIC SCENARIOS first.. like telephone poles and having kids running out from SCHOOL BUSSES.

Didn't Elon Musk JUST say that they already have that, like this week?

Waymo showed us their perception capabilities. Do they still have different stacks for producing driver inputs like steering and braking? Ie. My understanding is that they still do not have a fully end to end AI model for their cars?

Hate to be that guy, but let me know when they buy a company that actually builds cars at scale.

Maybe they should simulate some more normal stuff, like fire trucks, construction zones and power outages.

Modern simulators aim to reduce bias in the training through careful design and real data integration. Whether or not folks agree with what Waymo is doing, they are doing millions of miles per week and continuing to scale and that is a fact.

utterly useless and waste of money

Wait, I thought you needed 10B miles? Maybe Waymo knows what they are doing

Great news, but you're still 3 years behind Nvidia on real-world simulation and probably 6 years behind Tesla. Sorry but yeah, nice try!

Simulating rare edge cases is a smart move for safety. While real-world driving data is usually the best teacher, these models can help cover the 'impossible' scenarios. It is interesting to see how different companies are using AI to solve the autonomy puzzle.

But the world model is based on vision only. So how the hech do they train their lidar???

Strange how Waymo is releasing this right after Tesla showed similar tech off 😂 Everyone siloing everything until it's made public

@grok explain how this is different or better / worse than what Tesla is doing for years now.

They must of read Ashoks article lol

“Prepare the Waymo driver” oh you mean the random Philipino 5k miles away, got it

Good for them and all. They will learn from Tesla and do fine for themselves.

But Lidar

Waymo will last about 2-3 years before closing shop. They will lose many billions in the process.

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Remember when Tesla showed us their world model at like AI day 2 (maybe 1…), many years ago?

Better late than never.

So many companies have these. Why has nobody of them made it to a video game to take on GTA6 or Gran Turismo 🤔

The problem is they cant envision every possible edge case using sim only. Sure it can help, but you need real world data to solve the problem fully.

Waymo is using Gemini's World Model for training, and it's absolutely impressive! However, Tesla is doing the same thing too. A lot of people are underestimating it — Tesla actually has one of the best World Models out there.

bet they wish they'd recorded driving data & video when they ran all the google earth photo cars, tho

Keep using lidar🤣

Or… gather 8 billion ACTUAL miles of multi-camera video. No dice, Waymo. It takes more than video game programming to make a functioning, real-world AI.

good hope waymo get better so the ev market expand faster

