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Nobody talks about where coding agent money actually goes. It's not the code. Writing code is a small part of the bill. The rest is the agent: Reading files it didn't need. Deliberating over tiny choices. Retrying things that were never going to work. Fix the waste, not the...

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Hussain Hashim | Building SundayBack2 days ago

@cyrilXBT I hit this wall too. Half the time wasted on setup and dependency issues. Reuse configs where you can.

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Âxel ⟢2 days ago

Admire it

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· soph2 days ago

The waste isn't reading extra files, it's ambiguity. Agents thrash because the task spec was vague, and the router just decides easy vs hard, not clear vs underspecified. Where does routing stop being cheaper than writing a tighter prompt?

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swapcherry2 days ago

THE RETRYINGGG

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michia 🐈‍⬛3 days ago

the retry loop is the real bill, so a hard cap on attempts per task would save more than any cheaper model 👀

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Alan K2 days ago

Part of mine was spent before any work started. Each session loaded about 25,500 tokens of rules, memory and skill descriptions before its first tool call. I cut that to a rule card with a measured ceiling, and everything else now loads only when a task needs it.

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BreezeOg3 days ago

the agent reading files it never needed is where my money goes too

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Chris Alarcon2 days ago

Maintaining your agent does take a few iterations and it's never truly done. And being efficient takes time, because features are changing constantly.

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SALI2 days ago

you raise a valid point about inefficiencies in coding agents; addressing waste could lead to better outcomes

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Chappie Schied3 days ago

Same pattern with Claude Code. A lot of the bill is the agent re-exploring the repo every session. A short CLAUDE.md with the project map and the commands to run cuts most of that wandering.

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