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Opus 4.6 and Codex 5.3 still make stupid decisions

65,604 次观看 • 9 个月前 •via X (Twitter)

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Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

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Harley Trung 的头像
Harley Trung9 个月前

"it's such a mess [out there]. your job will definitely be safe" but i think these two buckets aren't safe: 1. developers who use agents recklessly. im thinking of calling them "the slob mob" 2. developers who say "agents aren't 100% right" so I spend more time on code than spec

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

yeah true was only saying that ai won’t be a 1:1 replacement for devs so in that sense the job of a software engineer is safe

Dmitry Belaventsev 的头像
Dmitry Belaventsev9 个月前

@harleytt ai is still a tool

Harley Trung 的头像
Harley Trung9 个月前

@atmoio no they are spawnable agents

Denis Loginoff ⚡️ 的头像
Denis Loginoff ⚡️9 个月前

You're the much-needed and rare voice of reason in this community 😅 I wish there were many more anti-hype, sane takes on AI, with both its pros and cons, than this breakneck-speed future-is-now you-are-missing-out skill-issue blind hype that populates the timeline..

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

thanks man i’m glad you’re finding the videos useful! and yeah the divide on this technology is the new culture war in this circle. but many reasonable voices emerging

Zach Vorhies / AI Google Whistleblower 的头像
Zach Vorhies / AI Google Whistleblower9 个月前

Skill issue Have the LLM generate a custom linter then run it on a hook. I’m literally doing this constantly

Devesh Yadav 的头像
Devesh Yadav9 个月前

How can someone complain about these models when they have improved sooo much since last year?

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

i think it’s more the harness improving than the models themselves

Kitty 的头像
Kitty9 个月前

Lmaooo so that's why models are always importing INSIDE the function without good reason

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

just lazy man 😅

NIKITA STUPIN 的头像
NIKITA STUPIN9 个月前

Great video! Though it also made me realize how hard it is to go back to writing code without LLMs — doing it manually just feels slow and inefficient now. That said, our jobs aren't going anywhere. They're evolving into something more like orchestrating agents and rigorously reviewing everything they produce.

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

it’s honestly not that bad going back to manual coding. just a mental illusion that it’s hard

NIKITA STUPIN 的头像
NIKITA STUPIN9 个月前

No, I just can’t. Currently I even ask model for a small changes like moving view a few pixels, because looking for it manually and writing is slower

karix_02 🟨🟦🦅 的头像
karix_02 🟨🟦🦅9 个月前

in this days of tech bros' slop its good to finally listen to someone more rational

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

thank you glad you like it!

klos 的头像
klos9 个月前

It's both true and cope at the same time. Any prediction about the AI slope in two years is very brave, given the progress of the last two years. A lot of AI-slope code works without causing problems - except hurting the souls of artisan programmers.

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

lol i do see a lot of shade thrown at “artisan” programmers but you have to keep in mind that principles of “good code” were born from previous wars and battles, and not out of snobbery

klos 的头像
klos9 个月前

I'd love to see the craft of programming preserved, but a few years ago I was part of a team making a visual programming language. The thesis was that we're constantly moving to higher levels of abstraction: assembly → C → Python → React → … Who touches assembly today?

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

idk if that analogy stacks up perfectly. historically its been completely lossless as we went up abstractions. now we’re getting like a hallucinogenic psychedelic abstraction layer. it’s a bit different.

klos 的头像
klos9 个月前

The analogy isn't perfect, I agree. But to some degree, writing a web app in JS is an extremely inefficient use of compute compared to writing it directly in assembly. What if what matters in the end is whether it "does the thing"? I have no answers.

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

what matters is not just whether it does the thing, but how amenable it is to change over the years and decades. engineering is surfing constraints

Mr Z 的头像
Mr Z9 个月前

if you think ai sucks i challenge you to do this line by line I re did an old project I did months ago made it in a week opus 4.6 made it better oh wait it would take you 40+ years to do what I did either do it line by line in a week or shut the fuck up

truckfinger 的头像
truckfinger9 个月前

Trying to cut compute waste in the wrong ways

BentleyAI 的头像
BentleyAI9 个月前

Currently on team Mo. My agent swarm went from warm and fuzzy to terminating the entire team within 3 days.

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

😅✊

Dennis H. A. van Leeuwen 🕹 的头像
Dennis H. A. van Leeuwen 🕹9 个月前

these are money eaters.

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

💯

L J 的头像
L J9 个月前

then why the lay offs?

Biff 的头像
Biff9 个月前

"Make no mistakes"

Robbie Doon 的头像
Robbie Doon9 个月前

I’ve started just spending a bunch of time specifying the constraints of my system, choosing stacks that play well, and enforcing good testing routines. Theres some manual stuff, but so much of it is just get good patterns early and don’t be scared to refactor.

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

impossible to avoid slop no matter what you do

Robbie Doon 的头像
Robbie Doon9 个月前

Adopt or be left behind friend.

Lyosha the Zebra 的头像
Lyosha the Zebra9 个月前

The real question is what rules or prompting techniques is needed to augment your work on this specific problem. In a lot of cases that's all you need. Just relying on default LLM work expecting it does everything for you is not professional.

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

llms are inherently sloppy though, even with very careful rules. humans, when being deliberate, do not exhibit this

Marko Gaccio 的头像
Marko Gaccio9 个月前

the best and most reasonable take on AI models i have seen on this platform by far. AI will not replace software developers anytime soon if it proceed with the path i has taken

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

💯 glad it resonated with you!

Marko Gaccio 的头像
Marko Gaccio9 个月前

Yeah it comes from experience, its a great tool to have at your disposal, can be super handy but still its just a tool, nothing more than that

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

yup exactly

Cengiz 的头像
Cengiz9 个月前

Still very weird that these coding models, after 6+ months aren't inherently aware that: - they should be working across multiple files - tasks they describe as "2 weeks" actually take 2 minutes

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

it’s basically all training data based. the training data has no instance of a complex programming task taking 3 minutes 😆

Cengiz 的头像
Cengiz9 个月前

i'm an absolute ape in these matters, but isn't that what post-training is for?

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

possibly, assuming they optimized for that

Murat Beshtoev 的头像
Murat Beshtoev9 个月前

It is similar to Waymo, remotely controlled by an underpaid labor force in the Philippines without US driver’s licenses. 😀

Sumit Mishra 的头像
Sumit Mishra9 个月前

i am just starting out and can you tell me that how can we not rely on ai in video or something it would mean a lot!!!!

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

what do you mean specifically? btw i may already cover this in some of the other videos in my channel :)

Sumit Mishra 的头像
Sumit Mishra9 个月前

Thanks for the reply! I meant to say that - What will be the actionable steps to transition from relying on AI to doing your own code - How to get to know about the good practice since every repo is almost ai slop - what if we are burdened by shipping deadlines and stuff!

A Lulzy Apprentice 的头像
A Lulzy Apprentice9 个月前

Yet, watch senior devs get let go and pushed aside due to cost.

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

who will wrangle the agents then?

Ali Öztürk | Dubliom 的头像
Ali Öztürk | Dubliom9 个月前

Where is the page? I signed

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

what page

Ali Öztürk | Dubliom 的头像
Ali Öztürk | Dubliom9 个月前

😉 My friend, what you said makes so much sense that I’d sign it if it were a document. I was actually just joking.

Lance 的头像
Lance9 个月前

So I’m an IT guy and been playing with OpenClaw obsessively. What Im finding is that you have this context window that once it gets filled then compacted it starts acting weird. Obviously if you completely refresh it’s almost a restart memory files help a lot but still have remind the AI things…. Now on the plus side there are moments when you hit a sweet spot where you stick with one idea/frame. You get into the flow with the AI. Now I’m not programming… I’m exploring the depths of AI reasoning and there are times when it’s transcendent and you can get amazing quality out of it. However, it really requires the human and the AI to be active thought partners in the process.

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

yeah, as partners, it’s an unstoppable duo

Toxic Bro 的头像
Toxic Bro9 个月前

This is wild... I guess AGI is postponed a few more years

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

yeah, “12-18 months” or so 😆

Johnny 2.0 的头像
Johnny 2.09 个月前

This is why I can't move from Composer 1 model with Cursor. Other models don't think like an engineer.

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

composer 1 is a small model no?

Johnny 2.0 的头像
Johnny 2.09 个月前

Composer‑1 is a Mixture‑of‑Experts coding model with an estimated total parameter count on the order of hundreds of billions, with roughly tens of billions of active parameters per token (commonly cited around 35B active).

Mr. Roth 的头像
Mr. Roth9 个月前

😂😂

Diet Coke Dev 的头像
Diet Coke Dev9 个月前

This is why you must use narrative comments throughout your codebase. Idk why engineers still haven’t figured this out lol

bruninho 的头像
bruninho9 个月前

1m tokens context window with high accuracy that’s the key benefit of this model

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

hasn’t seemed to make a difference

gCANDDAO 的头像
gCANDDAO9 个月前

Probably comes from trying to avoid editing the top of the file when adding functionality. 😅

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

yeah it tries to stay local it seems as much as possible

gCANDDAO 的头像
gCANDDAO9 个月前

Maybe to save tokens?

Artificial Mind 的头像
Artificial Mind9 个月前

Small moves, small moves.

Reality Lamenter Groyper 的头像
Reality Lamenter Groyper9 个月前

I implore everyone who is hopelessly optimistic about these models to read the “illusion of thinking” white paper

Pouya Amiri 的头像
Pouya Amiri9 个月前

Always trust the man with the long beard

Mo 的头像
Mo9 个月前

😄🍻

Not Me 的头像
Not Me9 个月前

Of course. That’s why you have to guide it

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