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Question for all software engineers and autonomous car experts- Why do Waymos freeze so often and block intersections/traffic while Tesla FSD always makes a decision and drives around the block if needed? It doesn’t seem to matter if there is a passenger inside or not. Mapping problems? Can’t back... show more

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No Safe Words1 year ago

we’ve witnessed literally hundreds of recent events where Waymo autonomous vehicles, freeze and block traffic in city, such as San Francisco, Atlanta, Austin, Los Angeles, and Phoenix. Many of these videos have been collated and posted by The Sunset Project™️at @cyber_trailer. Do these vehicles need a more powerful computer system? Why does this not happen to vehicles running Tesla FSD? Is it possible that Waymo has been rushed to expand their coverage and simply gave up on basic quality controls?

No Safe Words1 year ago

@grok are you with us?

No Safe Words1 year ago

@gork, I would like to report a murder

KEAGAN1 year ago

Hey @RealDanODowd this should be addressed, don’t you think?

Aim Up1 year ago

Competing sensors give different answers.

Victor Bellum1 year ago

Dan - By now everyone on X realized Waymo is pure nuisance on roads and all your biased takes about FSD is pure nonsense. Thanks to @Cyber_Trailer who is doing God’s work to expose the TRUTH behind your daily anti-Tesla / Anti-Elon tweets.

wangbang1 year ago

They’re trying to get autonomous vehicles banned to hurt Tesla

Lindsay Wright1 year ago

Well, here's a complete thread of uninformative answers. I'll try to be the exception. Waymo's are programmed by direct logic ("If there's an object in front and it's close and it's getting closer, start braking"). As you might imagine, it takes an awful lot of IFs to be thought of and implemented and there's an almost infinite number of combinations of conditions to deal with. When a condition isn't covered, the vehicle stops. What else could it do? With Tesla's FSD, the processor is a neural net rather like the human brain with literally billions of interconnections. These interconnections are programmed through a learning process, involving feeding video of billions of miles of driving including every corner case there ever was. FSD is effectively being taught by humans, from video curated to be the best driving and exclude idiot drivers like me. This method is far more likely to behave like a good human driver, and ultimately learn from its own mistakes and become maybe 10x or more safe than a human.

Eric To1 year ago

Stack overflow with all the LiDAR bullshit

NQ-CT-LTB1 year ago

Too many sensor types to make a quick decision. Fundamental flaw of Lidar-equipped vehicles incompatible with human vision based sensing.

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1,501,666 views • 9 months ago

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27,643 views • 1 year ago

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15,342 views • 1 year ago

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51,679 views • 2 months ago