Internet umpires. Need help I’m confused here I thought the intentional dropped catch means, the player “caught” is out, and the runner doesn’t advance? But here the runner ends up on 2nd? And the batter is out.

This league uses WBSC rules. Under the WBSC rules, on an intentional drop, the batter runner is out, the ball remains live and R1 can advance at their own risk. Since the intentional drop retires the batter-runner, the force at 2nd is removed. They got this right.

Batter is out and runners return to previously occupied base. Possible protest as a rule was applied incorrectly.

That’s what I thought. And then all of a sudden the runner was on 2nd. Hence the confusion, lol

From what I see, they aren’t ruling that an intentional drop. Which means the batter is out and now there is no force at second. That runner needs to be tagged. So if they continued to second they’d be safe?

Immediate dead ball. Batter out, runners return.

In MLB rulebook, the runners go back. In the WPBL, what to do with the runners isn't mentioned.

You’re correct.

If they advance a runner on this, they misapplied the rule.

This is totally incorrect.

batters out runner goes back

Embarrassingly bad for that umpire. That's worse then just missing the call and not thinking it was dropped intentionally. Shows a general lack of knowledge of the rule book.

Not the first time I've seen clips of that same umpire screwing up.

If you deem intentional drop, ball is dead and batter is out. Runners are placed. That should have been called here and clearly was not.

Half-right. The batter is out, no matter if it's caught or not. If they intentionally drop the ball, the runner can advance at their own discretion and they do not have to tag up.

If they ruled that she dropped the ball intentionally, I believe the rule is that the batter is out and the runner should return to first base.

That's an intentional drop.

They treated it like an infield fly. Batter was out immediately and runners can advance at their own peril. Since it wasn't a force, she's not out on the throw to second. Since it wasn't a catch, she's not doubled off at first. Since she ran to second, she's safe there.

When I was growing up, I remember an old timer UMP tell me that this was called a “travesty of the game” and the batter would be awarded a 3 base error. So in this situation the runner on 1st would score and batter placed on 3B. But this is not an official rule anymore.

Bad call by the umpire. If they touch the ball, it is intentionally dropped. If it hits the ground without touching the fielder, fair game. Vladdy did this a few years ago for Jays

I guess that depends on if you thought she intentionally dropped the ball or just muffled the whole damn thing. The question is, and the camera view isnt clear on it, but did she have control of the ball and let it go? Or did it hit her glove and come out?

If she muffed the whole thing, then an out was still recorded at 2nd. So none of it makes sense

The batter was out cause she didnt run to 1st. You can see her just entering frame after 1B takes the throw from short.

I said an out was recorded at 2nd. If you think she just dropped the ball on a bad play, then she still threw to 2nd to record a force out

Correct. If she dropped it intentionally. BR is out and runners return. If she just kicked the catch. This is a 4-6-3 double play.

Force at second was removed by the Infield Fly rule when the batter was automatically out. Runner who was at first is safe at second because the out at second required tagging the runner, not the bag. She advanced at her own risk. If the umps called her out, it's a bad call.