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PC AUTO, a known Chinese auto publication, recently reviewed intelligent driving systems from eight major brands: Huawei, BYD, XPeng, Zeekr, LI, Xiaomi, NIO and Tesla. In 2 scenarios where a tree is in the way, FSD is the only system that successfully drove around to stay the course. Every... show more

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Ray1 年前

FYI, all the other systems are said to be built on end2end architecture as well.

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Vance Ginn1 年前

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Sahil Punamia1 年前

Why are Chinese journalists being more objective about a US brand than journalists in our own country? Very sad times

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Ray1 年前

Actually it depends…

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James Stephenson1 年前

👆@aelluswamy 💯

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Scott Jordan1 年前

Anecdote: At the foot of my street is a topiary just up from the intersection. First time FSD took me home last Fall, it dealt with the topiary with no issue but seemed perplexed by the reflective post just past it: it slowed, crept forward, was obviously inspecting this unexpected object. Anyone who's seen a horse dealing with something unexpected knows the scene. Next day and ever since, no issues-- it accepts that post now. It learned.

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Ray1 年前

Interesting

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SiamTeslaX.AI1 年前

FSD is the brain. 10 more LIDARs did nothing. LIDARs can see the tree alright, but it doesn’t understand it.

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i668 ☕️1 年前

“Vision only” requires more mature AI which can handle everything better. LIDAR allows the AI to operate with less understanding of reality which means the AI is just less capable.

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The 👻 of Shaolin1 年前

You can put lipstick on a pig, but still a pig

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GigaGazette1 年前

Most cars tried to run through the tree 😅

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This Chinese tester puts 3 intelligent driving systems to the test in a construction zone: Huawei ADS, LI AD Max and Tesla FSD, all of which are installed with the currently available software versions in China. FSD is the only one that successfully navigates the zone without any issue. Both ADS and AD Max give up either because it can’t perceive the environment properly or lack of navigation map data. FSD camera-only solution is better than complex sensor suite of lidars, radars, cameras and ultrasonic sensors. To watch the entire video, here is the link:

This Chinese tester puts 3 intelligent driving systems to the test in a construction zone: Huawei ADS, LI AD Max and Tesla FSD, all of which are installed with the currently available software versions in China. FSD is the only one that successfully navigates the zone without any issue. Both ADS and AD Max give up either because it can’t perceive the environment properly or lack of navigation map data. FSD camera-only solution is better than complex sensor suite of lidars, radars, cameras and ultrasonic sensors. To watch the entire video, here is the link:

Ray

98,618 次观看 • 1 年前

Two Chinese automotive influencers share their testing of FSD v14.3.4 in Los Angeles. Before coming to the U.S., they believed Chinese autonomous driving systems such as Huawei ADS, XPeng VLA, and Li Auto ADAS were the world’s best. After spending several days extensively testing Tesla’s FSD, they changed their minds, acknowledging that Chinese systems still have room for improvement before catching up with FSD. At this point, it’s very clear that FSD is the benchmark for every autonomous system in China.

Two Chinese automotive influencers share their testing of FSD v14.3.4 in Los Angeles. Before coming to the U.S., they believed Chinese autonomous driving systems such as Huawei ADS, XPeng VLA, and Li Auto ADAS were the world’s best. After spending several days extensively testing Tesla’s FSD, they changed their minds, acknowledging that Chinese systems still have room for improvement before catching up with FSD. At this point, it’s very clear that FSD is the benchmark for every autonomous system in China.

Ray

166,515 次观看 • 21 天前

This is the latest version of HUAWEI ADS 4, which is often called China’s strongest autonomous driving system. Compared with Tesla FSD V14.2.2.5 in the same scenario, the difference in reaction speed is obvious. Under the same conditions, the HUAWEI ADS vehicle hit the pedestrian twice, while FSD accurately avoided every collision. This is the so-called Chinese autonomous driving system that many Western influencers claim is far better than FSD. All I can say is that their marketing is extremely powerful. Both local consumers and Western media figures have been misled by its performance in specially tuned scenarios. And this is also why many local automakers are doing everything they can to block FSD from entering China. Once the latest version of FSD arrives, the dream they have carefully created for local consumers will collapse.

This is the latest version of HUAWEI ADS 4, which is often called China’s strongest autonomous driving system. Compared with Tesla FSD V14.2.2.5 in the same scenario, the difference in reaction speed is obvious. Under the same conditions, the HUAWEI ADS vehicle hit the pedestrian twice, while FSD accurately avoided every collision. This is the so-called Chinese autonomous driving system that many Western influencers claim is far better than FSD. All I can say is that their marketing is extremely powerful. Both local consumers and Western media figures have been misled by its performance in specially tuned scenarios. And this is also why many local automakers are doing everything they can to block FSD from entering China. Once the latest version of FSD arrives, the dream they have carefully created for local consumers will collapse.

JacksonS

138,964 次观看 • 3 个月前

At a product launch event last year, Li Bin, ceo of NIO, said “those who think of LiDARs being useless are either dumb or evil. LiDARs can make up for the weakness in vision-only perception”, followed by a short clip showing that LiDAR is able to recognize the obstacle (a stack of tires) in pitch dark and come to a full stop. That was his comment made before FSD rolled out in China. Pretty sure he has watched plenty of FSD videos and wonder what he has to say now.

At a product launch event last year, Li Bin, ceo of NIO, said “those who think of LiDARs being useless are either dumb or evil. LiDARs can make up for the weakness in vision-only perception”, followed by a short clip showing that LiDAR is able to recognize the obstacle (a stack of tires) in pitch dark and come to a full stop. That was his comment made before FSD rolled out in China. Pretty sure he has watched plenty of FSD videos and wonder what he has to say now.

Ray

70,324 次观看 • 1 年前

Li Auto autonomous driving head Kun Zhan said in a recent interview that Tesla FSD remains the industry benchmark, praising its safety and capabilities. He added that Li Auto’s autonomous driving team is aiming to reach that level. The interviewer, an industry insider, offered an even more blunt assessment of FSD compared with competing systems in China: “We’ve consistently acknowledged Tesla FSD as the benchmark. What I do want to criticize is the constant claim from some people that they’ve already surpassed Tesla, when in reality the gap is still enormous. The only reason they dare say that is because Tesla FSD hasn’t fully entered the Chinese market yet. Once it truly rolls out, they’ll be completely exposed. It’ll be like ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes’ being stripped away in public.”

Li Auto autonomous driving head Kun Zhan said in a recent interview that Tesla FSD remains the industry benchmark, praising its safety and capabilities. He added that Li Auto’s autonomous driving team is aiming to reach that level. The interviewer, an industry insider, offered an even more blunt assessment of FSD compared with competing systems in China: “We’ve consistently acknowledged Tesla FSD as the benchmark. What I do want to criticize is the constant claim from some people that they’ve already surpassed Tesla, when in reality the gap is still enormous. The only reason they dare say that is because Tesla FSD hasn’t fully entered the Chinese market yet. Once it truly rolls out, they’ll be completely exposed. It’ll be like ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes’ being stripped away in public.”

Ray

35,988 次观看 • 2 个月前

This Chinese vlogger is both Tesla and XPeng owner. He is an avid tester of Tesla FSD and Xpeng NGP. He points out NGP almost always comes to an abrupt halt when humans or mopeds get real close or cross intersections as evidenced in this clip, even though there is ample time to gradually slow down, making driving extremely uncomfortable. This is not an isolated case. It exists with other XPeng owners. On the other hand, the owner says FSD is very reassuring and predictable. Other systems may have a fewer takeover rates than FSD for now but he still prefers FSD because of its driving comfort, smoothness and confidence.

This Chinese vlogger is both Tesla and XPeng owner. He is an avid tester of Tesla FSD and Xpeng NGP. He points out NGP almost always comes to an abrupt halt when humans or mopeds get real close or cross intersections as evidenced in this clip, even though there is ample time to gradually slow down, making driving extremely uncomfortable. This is not an isolated case. It exists with other XPeng owners. On the other hand, the owner says FSD is very reassuring and predictable. Other systems may have a fewer takeover rates than FSD for now but he still prefers FSD because of its driving comfort, smoothness and confidence.

Ray

322,507 次观看 • 1 年前

The idea that Tesla is alone in the race to develop end-to-end vision system for self-driving and delivering into consumer vehicles is officially dead. Like dead, dead. I tested Xpeng's VLA 2.0 in the streets of Beijing, and it is comparable to my experience of daily driving Tesla FSD v14. Xpeng is not charging $100 a month to drive this. It is inlcuded in its higher-trim vehicles and it already caught the attention of Volkswagen, which is going to integrate into its own vehicles - something Tesla hasn't been able to do despite trying. You can watch the full 40-minute drive on Electrek.co

The idea that Tesla is alone in the race to develop end-to-end vision system for self-driving and delivering into consumer vehicles is officially dead. Like dead, dead. I tested Xpeng's VLA 2.0 in the streets of Beijing, and it is comparable to my experience of daily driving Tesla FSD v14. Xpeng is not charging $100 a month to drive this. It is inlcuded in its higher-trim vehicles and it already caught the attention of Volkswagen, which is going to integrate into its own vehicles - something Tesla hasn't been able to do despite trying. You can watch the full 40-minute drive on Electrek.co

Fred Lambert

2,142,592 次观看 • 3 个月前

At the product launch event yesterday, Zhan Kun, head of LI Auto’s foundational model team (intelligent driving), spoke highly of Tesla FSD: “Many friends who returned from the U.S. sent messages to me and Li Xiang, claiming that except for FSD, there is no Tier 1 system in China. After two weeks of experiencing Tesla’s FSD V14.3 in the United States, I came back with two impressions: First, Tesla’s FSD is truly exceptionally strong. Second, the competitive pressure it represents is immense.”

At the product launch event yesterday, Zhan Kun, head of LI Auto’s foundational model team (intelligent driving), spoke highly of Tesla FSD: “Many friends who returned from the U.S. sent messages to me and Li Xiang, claiming that except for FSD, there is no Tier 1 system in China. After two weeks of experiencing Tesla’s FSD V14.3 in the United States, I came back with two impressions: First, Tesla’s FSD is truly exceptionally strong. Second, the competitive pressure it represents is immense.”

Ray

35,232 次观看 • 1 个月前

Today, CNBC released a new video with Consumer Reports comparing driver-assist systems. But there's a problem… in the video, they used Tesla's Autopilot, not Tesla's FSD (Supervised), and compared that to the top offerings in other automakers' cars. CNBC also claimed that Tesla lacked an effective driver monitoring camera, but Tesla does have one—so much so that some Tesla owners complain about its sensitivity. Camera based driver attention monitoring is less strict for Autopilot than it is for FSD (Supervised). Not once in the video did they test the latest version of Tesla's FSD. Consumer Reports says Ford and GM have the best driver assist systems. The Mercedes system they praise in the video is extremely limited and can only work on highways. Tesla's FSD (Supervised) will work on virtually any road in the US/Canada.

Today, CNBC released a new video with Consumer Reports comparing driver-assist systems. But there's a problem… in the video, they used Tesla's Autopilot, not Tesla's FSD (Supervised), and compared that to the top offerings in other automakers' cars. CNBC also claimed that Tesla lacked an effective driver monitoring camera, but Tesla does have one—so much so that some Tesla owners complain about its sensitivity. Camera based driver attention monitoring is less strict for Autopilot than it is for FSD (Supervised). Not once in the video did they test the latest version of Tesla's FSD. Consumer Reports says Ford and GM have the best driver assist systems. The Mercedes system they praise in the video is extremely limited and can only work on highways. Tesla's FSD (Supervised) will work on virtually any road in the US/Canada.

Sawyer Merritt

991,616 次观看 • 1 年前

Bro… it’s 2026 and you’re still driving manually? I just press a button, and I don’t even remember how I got to my destination. If it was legal to do so, I’d be 100% comfortable closing my eyes and taking a nap the entire drive. It’s just the honest truth, I’m not hyping anything. Tesla FSD is really that good now. Tesla FSD has now driven more than 8 billion real world miles, including more than 3 billion city miles. In Tesla’s latest safety data, FSD logged about 1 major collision every 5.3 million miles, which Tesla says is about 7x fewer major collisions than the U.S. average. On top of this, Tesla FSD delivers 7x fewer minor collisions and 5x fewer off-highway collisions than the average. It’s significantly safer than anything out there. This AI system is learning from millions of Teslas out in the real world, not from geofenced areas, like literally anywhere a Tesla can drive. Tesla’s vehicles use 360 degree camera visibility, over-the-air updates, and has a neural net that keeps making the system smarter, safer, and better over time, for all Teslas. The FSD experience is so good now that manually driving already feels like the distant past. And once you’ve lived with what so many Tesla owners get to experience every day, going back to any other car feels almost impossible.

Bro… it’s 2026 and you’re still driving manually? I just press a button, and I don’t even remember how I got to my destination. If it was legal to do so, I’d be 100% comfortable closing my eyes and taking a nap the entire drive. It’s just the honest truth, I’m not hyping anything. Tesla FSD is really that good now. Tesla FSD has now driven more than 8 billion real world miles, including more than 3 billion city miles. In Tesla’s latest safety data, FSD logged about 1 major collision every 5.3 million miles, which Tesla says is about 7x fewer major collisions than the U.S. average. On top of this, Tesla FSD delivers 7x fewer minor collisions and 5x fewer off-highway collisions than the average. It’s significantly safer than anything out there. This AI system is learning from millions of Teslas out in the real world, not from geofenced areas, like literally anywhere a Tesla can drive. Tesla’s vehicles use 360 degree camera visibility, over-the-air updates, and has a neural net that keeps making the system smarter, safer, and better over time, for all Teslas. The FSD experience is so good now that manually driving already feels like the distant past. And once you’ve lived with what so many Tesla owners get to experience every day, going back to any other car feels almost impossible.

Teslaconomics

16,734 次观看 • 4 个月前

This is the new Xiaomi YU7 electric SUV's smart driving system tested on real Beijing streets. Impressive, but a few glitches: 1) right-turn signal turns on randomly 2) wrongly thinks it's about to hit a truck 3) thinks a green left-turn light is red and stops 4) to get around a stopped car, it waits till the last minute to change lanes 5) slows too early before a turn With the truck incident, a guy sitting in the back explains that the system is more sensitive around large vehicles, pedestrians, and non-motorized vehicles (like bikes). Keep in mind, it's only marketed as an assisted driving system, not a fully autonomous driving system. Here's the original video on Weibo (Chinese only):

This is the new Xiaomi YU7 electric SUV's smart driving system tested on real Beijing streets. Impressive, but a few glitches: 1) right-turn signal turns on randomly 2) wrongly thinks it's about to hit a truck 3) thinks a green left-turn light is red and stops 4) to get around a stopped car, it waits till the last minute to change lanes 5) slows too early before a turn With the truck incident, a guy sitting in the back explains that the system is more sensitive around large vehicles, pedestrians, and non-motorized vehicles (like bikes). Keep in mind, it's only marketed as an assisted driving system, not a fully autonomous driving system. Here's the original video on Weibo (Chinese only):

Kyle Chan

14,084 次观看 • 1 年前

A lot is being said about Tesla FSD. This video shows something different. FSD is set to a maximum speed of 130 km/h. The recognized speed limit is 120 km/h. When I press the accelerator, I can temporarily exceed that speed. But the moment I release the pedal, FSD smoothly returns to 120 km/h. In other words, Tesla does not continue speeding on its own. And let’s not forget the most important fact: The driver remains responsible for the vehicle at all times. FSD (Supervised) is a driver-assistance system that follows traffic rules, not a replacement for the driver. Watch the video. Facts over fear.

A lot is being said about Tesla FSD. This video shows something different. FSD is set to a maximum speed of 130 km/h. The recognized speed limit is 120 km/h. When I press the accelerator, I can temporarily exceed that speed. But the moment I release the pedal, FSD smoothly returns to 120 km/h. In other words, Tesla does not continue speeding on its own. And let’s not forget the most important fact: The driver remains responsible for the vehicle at all times. FSD (Supervised) is a driver-assistance system that follows traffic rules, not a replacement for the driver. Watch the video. Facts over fear.

NL F$D Inside

104,239 次观看 • 1 个月前

We’ve got to make the system work better. Only throwing money at it is not going to solve the issue, which is why we’re working to address the underlying causes that make us a sick nation and fix the system to provide better care.

We’ve got to make the system work better. Only throwing money at it is not going to solve the issue, which is why we’re working to address the underlying causes that make us a sick nation and fix the system to provide better care.

DrOzCMS

21,260 次观看 • 1 年前

Chinese influencer Li Chi flew from China to California for the sole purpose of experiencing Tesla FSD firsthand. Here are his impressions: “Flew 25,000 km — half the globe — just to personally experience Tesla’s smart driving and compare it with Huawei’s smart driving. I’ll skip the detailed process and go straight to the conclusion: Under normal weather and road conditions, Tesla’s vision-based routing is first-class. (I didn’t get a chance to test in foggy conditions.) In certain scenarios, Tesla outperforms Huawei. For example, when activating smart driving, Tesla can reverse to avoid a vehicle parked on the left, then go around it and rejoin the road ahead — quite impressive. Route selection capability is also top-tier. It doesn’t just follow conventional routes but can take shortcuts through residential roads. Acceleration is crisp and decisive, without hesitation… In short, Tesla FSD is improving very quickly. Physically removing the steering wheel would already present no real obstacles. I hope China will soon allow Tesla FSD to operate domestically, enabling earlier adoption of L3 and encouraging competition with local manufacturers.”

Chinese influencer Li Chi flew from China to California for the sole purpose of experiencing Tesla FSD firsthand. Here are his impressions: “Flew 25,000 km — half the globe — just to personally experience Tesla’s smart driving and compare it with Huawei’s smart driving. I’ll skip the detailed process and go straight to the conclusion: Under normal weather and road conditions, Tesla’s vision-based routing is first-class. (I didn’t get a chance to test in foggy conditions.) In certain scenarios, Tesla outperforms Huawei. For example, when activating smart driving, Tesla can reverse to avoid a vehicle parked on the left, then go around it and rejoin the road ahead — quite impressive. Route selection capability is also top-tier. It doesn’t just follow conventional routes but can take shortcuts through residential roads. Acceleration is crisp and decisive, without hesitation… In short, Tesla FSD is improving very quickly. Physically removing the steering wheel would already present no real obstacles. I hope China will soon allow Tesla FSD to operate domestically, enabling earlier adoption of L3 and encouraging competition with local manufacturers.”

Ray

21,232,980 次观看 • 4 个月前

Chinese cars are superior. Typically, the all-wheel drive system on EVs are 10 to 100 times more responsive than ICE cars. EVs being digitized are inherently intelligent, hence the only platform for future. Currently, the only minor hinderance for much wider adoption in some cases, is the recharge time. But as solid-state battery matures, that problem will be eliminated as well. Even with current battery tech, a Chinese plugin hybrid, for which BYD is the world leader, is still superior to an ICE car.

Chinese cars are superior. Typically, the all-wheel drive system on EVs are 10 to 100 times more responsive than ICE cars. EVs being digitized are inherently intelligent, hence the only platform for future. Currently, the only minor hinderance for much wider adoption in some cases, is the recharge time. But as solid-state battery matures, that problem will be eliminated as well. Even with current battery tech, a Chinese plugin hybrid, for which BYD is the world leader, is still superior to an ICE car.

Zhao DaShuai 东北进修🇨🇳

77,981 次观看 • 8 个月前

The global fleet has now crossed 11 billion miles driven on FSD after reaching 10 billion just last month That means Tesla owners are collectively racking up 1 billion FSD miles every 37 days And it’s accelerating fast: - More European countries are approving FSD - The overall Tesla fleet keeps growing This is currently the most advanced vision-based AI driving system in the world FSD improves road safety by ~9x vs the average U.S. driver Autonomy is scaling at an insane pace The future of driving is here and it’s getting safer every single day

The global fleet has now crossed 11 billion miles driven on FSD after reaching 10 billion just last month That means Tesla owners are collectively racking up 1 billion FSD miles every 37 days And it’s accelerating fast: - More European countries are approving FSD - The overall Tesla fleet keeps growing This is currently the most advanced vision-based AI driving system in the world FSD improves road safety by ~9x vs the average U.S. driver Autonomy is scaling at an insane pace The future of driving is here and it’s getting safer every single day

X Freeze

14,077 次观看 • 2 个月前

Sadly lawyer Kyla Lee also appeared on this news piece, and while technically correct in her statement about level of autonomy and what legal and illegal in BC, she misses the point point that Tesla Autopilot and FSD are Level 2 by SAE definition and fully legal in BC. This is a case of misuse of a system, not use of a system that is illegal. It is also entirely possible that she did get into this while being interviewed and it was edited out so CTV News Vancouver could keep a certain narrative that FSD = bad, but in reply to our other post she appears to believe that FSD is Level 3.

Sadly lawyer Kyla Lee also appeared on this news piece, and while technically correct in her statement about level of autonomy and what legal and illegal in BC, she misses the point point that Tesla Autopilot and FSD are Level 2 by SAE definition and fully legal in BC. This is a case of misuse of a system, not use of a system that is illegal. It is also entirely possible that she did get into this while being interviewed and it was edited out so CTV News Vancouver could keep a certain narrative that FSD = bad, but in reply to our other post she appears to believe that FSD is Level 3.

Drive Tesla 🇨🇦

24,564 次观看 • 4 个月前

This may be the longest reverse I have seen Tesla FSD do for me. I was dropping a passenger off at a "local motel", all the way in the back where there is a big fence separating the motel from an industrial junkyard and no easy way to get back out. Tesla FSD v14.2.2 did an amazingly long reverse, all the way through the front gate and then turn around to get on our way to the next passenger. Every day there seems to be something new from Tesla FSD that I see while doing Uber in Houston that just amazes me.

This may be the longest reverse I have seen Tesla FSD do for me. I was dropping a passenger off at a "local motel", all the way in the back where there is a big fence separating the motel from an industrial junkyard and no easy way to get back out. Tesla FSD v14.2.2 did an amazingly long reverse, all the way through the front gate and then turn around to get on our way to the next passenger. Every day there seems to be something new from Tesla FSD that I see while doing Uber in Houston that just amazes me.

JC Christopher

19,579 次观看 • 7 个月前

German TV reporter testing Tesla FSD (Supervised) V14 in the country as public transport in rural areas: "I was genuinely impressed. In the situations where we experienced the system, it worked perfectly and safely. I hadn't expected that. Even in the bad weather conditions in the Eifel region. In many cases, it reacted at least as well as a human driver, if not better. If Tesla is ever allowed to roll out this system nationwide in Germany, I think it will have a major impact on mobility. And that will only be the beginning of some very significant changes in transportation..."

German TV reporter testing Tesla FSD (Supervised) V14 in the country as public transport in rural areas: "I was genuinely impressed. In the situations where we experienced the system, it worked perfectly and safely. I hadn't expected that. Even in the bad weather conditions in the Eifel region. In many cases, it reacted at least as well as a human driver, if not better. If Tesla is ever allowed to roll out this system nationwide in Germany, I think it will have a major impact on mobility. And that will only be the beginning of some very significant changes in transportation..."

Sawyer Merritt

37,517,767 次观看 • 4 个月前